Injury with 9 players?

[Robert E. Harrison]

A team has only 9 players and one gets injured sliding into second.

Or all players have been used and no available sub for injured player.

What is the correct procedure in NHFS (Fed).

[UmpJM]

Robert,

Let them play with 8. When the batting order slot occupied by the player who left the game comes around, it is an out.

JM

[dash_riprock]

They can continue with 8 players (but not less). The "hole" in the batting order is an automatic out. If another eligible player shows up, he can be inserted into the game but it's not mandatory.

[Robert E. Harrison]

What happens at 2nd base? Does another player take his place (who) or what is the procedure there?

[UmpJM]

Robert,

Assuming the injured player was safe at 2B, the most recent batter not currently on base may serve as a courtesy runner for the injured player (FED 4.4.1B(b) ).

JM

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by Robert E. Harrison

What happens at 2nd base? Does another player take his place (who) or what is the procedure there?

That's easy - invisible man on 2nd!

I don't think that's covered in the rules. I would let them use the first player in the lineup who appears immediately before the injured player, and who is not already on base.

FED 10.2.3.g.

[mikebran]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Robert,

Assuming the injured player was safe at 2B, the most recent batter not currently on base may serve as a courtesy runner for the injured player (FED 4.4.1B(b) ).

JM

Great question.. I've never seen this but nice to know it is clearly covered by rule.

A caution, however.. I would never call this runner a COURTESY RUNNER. He is definely NOT THAT. He is just a legal replacement runner.

[UmpJM]

mikebran,

You are, of course, free to refer to said runner as you like.

FYI, the case play I referenced in my earlier thread contains (my emphasis):

...The most recent batter not on base may serve as a courtesy runner for the injured B1...

So, in the unlikely event this were to occur in a game I was officiating, I think I would use the term "courtesy runner".

JM

[mikebran]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

mikebran,


FYI, the case play I referenced in my earlier thread contains (my emphasis):



So, in the unlikely event this were to occur in a game I was officiating, I think I would use the term "courtesy runner".

JM

Thanks for this, and I stand corrected. I now opine that this is really DUMB of the FED writers to use a term that has such specific meaning and rule attached to it and throw it around like a generic.

Scene 1 Act 4
prequel numb brain.

Vis Coach. "Hey Mike, I only have 9 players and my runner at second just stubbed his toe and has to come out, what can I do?

Me: NO prob, VC, just let the prev batter not on base go in as a COURTESY RUNNER for Stubby. YOu can play with 8 now, and stubbys spot is an autoout.

VC: Hokay Dokay.. (meanwhile Home Coach has listened intently.. he calmly scratches his Dr House face...)

Me: Play!

HC: TIME!! Mike, the guy at second is not a legal courtesy runner and needs to be ejected!

Me: HELP ME MR WIZARD!!!

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by mikebran

HC: TIME!! Mike, the guy at second is not a legal courtesy runner and needs to be ejected!

Me: HELP ME MR WIZARD!!!

"R2 is legal by rule."

Five words. Kinda.

[UMP25]

This FED rule is why I so much prefer NCAA and OBR. Don't have 9 players? Forfeit. Seeya!

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by UMP25

This FED rule is why I so much prefer NCAA and OBR. Don't have 9 players? Forfeit. Seeya!

High school is more about providing playing time when possible and reasonable. This rule, like the subsitution rule, is aimed at that.

[UMP25]

As the ole saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.