In 25 words . . .

[jicecone]

Have everyone reread 9-3b (1) (2) (3).

Tim, not sure where this, any help?

[UmpJM]

jicecone,

That (i.e. 9-3b, clauses 1, 2, & 3) is an NCAA rule reference.

Unique among all rule codes I have read (or at least those that I recall), the NCAA code includes the explicit requirement that a pitcher ...

(2) Must break contact with the rubber before throwing to first, and ...

Though I am not certain, I believe that this is the "point" of the response from Mr. Paronto that Tee is relating to us.

JM

[DG]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Have everyone reread 9-3b (1) (2) (3).

Tim, not sure where this, any help?

See Download Rules Book over on the left hand side.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/!ut/p...baseball/index

[Steven Tyler]

Quote:
(2) Must break contact with the rubber before throwing to first, and ...

Yep, if there is a runner on third and first. I don't think Jim Paronto is on the same page.

[UmpJM]

Hmmm....

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

...I don't think Jim Paronto is on the same page.

Having thought about it some, I find myself reluctantly compelled to agree with Steven Tyler's comment.

Hey, when he's right, he's right.

While I would agree with Mr. Paronto that the jab step is properly NOT balked in NCAA (I'm sure that will be a big relief to him), the proposed rationale is appallingly "non sequitur."

JM

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

The choices:

A. The rules don't specifically allow it, so it's a balk.
B. The rules don't specifically prohibit it, so it's not a balk.

I'll choose B.

I think this is along the best that we'll do. By strict reading, it probably *is* a balk in all codes. By common interpretation (sometimes specific, as in MLBUM), it's not.

It's not much different from the "step to teh side" in the wind-up position. THe rule said "step backwards and forwards" for years (and in some codes still might say that), but everyone allowed the step to the side. The (FED) rule finally caught up a couple of years ago.

Oh -- the 25-words or less answer: Don't be a f***ing plumber.