2008 HOF Ballot

[SAump]

The 2008 ballot features 25 candidates, with 14 returnees and 11 newcomers.
• Brady Anderson
• Harold Baines
• Rod Beck
• Bert Blyleven
• Dave Concepcion
• Andre Dawson
• Shawon Dunston
• Chuck Finley
• Travis Fryman
• Rich Gossage
• Tommy John
• David Justice
• Chuck Knoblauch
• Don Mattingly
• Mark McGwire
• Jack Morris
• Dale Murphy
• Robb Nen
• Dave Parker
• Tim Raines
• Jim Rice
• Jose Rijo
• Lee Smith
• Todd Stottlemyre
• Alan Trammell
Source: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=mlb

[SanDiegoSteve]

• Brady Anderson -Hell no
• Harold Baines -Yes
• Rod Beck -No
• Bert Blyleven -Yes
• Dave Concepcion -Definitely
• Andre Dawson -Yes
• Shawon Dunston -Not yet
• Chuck Finley -Not yet
• Travis Fryman -No
• Rich Gossage -Absolutely
• Tommy John -Positively
• David Justice -Not Yet
• Chuck Knoblauch -Not Yet
• Don Mattingly -Of course
• Mark McGwire -You're kidding, right
• Jack Morris -Yes
• Dale Murphy -Yes
• Robb Nen -Not yet
• Dave Parker -Way overdue
• Tim Raines -Yes
• Jim Rice -Yes
• Jose Rijo -Not yet
• Lee Smith -Also overdue
• Todd Stottlemyre -No. I'd sooner vote for Mel.
• Alan Trammell -Yes to the S.D. Kearney HS grad!

[Jurassic Referee]

Who cares?

I'd rather know which umpires are on vacation and when.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Who cares?

I'd rather know which umpires are on vacation and when.

One of the funniest posts I've read in a long time on here...good off season humor!!

[BigTex]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

• Shawon Dunston -Not yet
• Chuck Finley -Not yet
• David Justice -Not Yet
• Chuck Knoblauch -Not Yet
• Robb Nen -Not yet
• Jose Rijo -Not yet

SDS,
Please explain your "not yet" vote. Either someone is good enough to get in the Hall or not. Will the stats get better over time? I am not trying to stir up some $h!t, I am truly curious how you feel.

[Steve M]

• Dave Parker -Way overdue

I could not possibly agree less. Parker was one who surely had all the tools, but he snorted them away as he snorted his coke. Parker was one of those who never came anywhere near being the player he should have been, let alone the player he was capable of being.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Steve M

• Dave Parker -Way overdue

I could not possibly agree less. Parker was one who surely had all the tools, but he snorted them away as he snorted his coke. Parker was one of those who never came anywhere near being the player he should have been, let alone the player he was capable of being.

I like coke!

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by BigTex

SDS,
Please explain your "not yet" vote. Either someone is good enough to get in the Hall or not. Will the stats get better over time? I am not trying to stir up some $h!t, I am truly curious how you feel.

Not yet, as in "not at this time." There are more deserving players who have waited much longer for enshrinement. The players that I said were overdue are the ones who should go in first. The "not yet" crowd have the HOF stats, but can wait their turn like everyone else.

[JJ]

Shawon Dunston? Who nominates these guys - their mothers?

JJ

[Arnold A.]

• Jim Rice -If he doesn't get in, none of the following should
• Brady Anderson -Hell no
• Harold Baines -No
• Rod Beck -No
• Bert Blyleven -No
• Dave Concepcion -No
• Andre Dawson -Yes
• Shawon Dunston -No
• Chuck Finley -No
• Travis Fryman -No
• Rich Gossage -Yes
• Tommy John -Yes
• David Justice -No
• Chuck Knoblauch -No
• Don Mattingly -No
• Mark McGwire -No
• Jack Morris -Yes
• Dale Murphy -No
• Robb Nen -No
• Dave Parker -No
• Tim Raines -No
• Jose Rijo -No
• Lee Smith -No
• Todd Stottlemyre -No
• Alan Trammell -No

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by JJ

Shawon Dunston? Who nominates these guys - their mothers?

JJ

Everyone is eligible after 5 years out of the game.

[Rich]

My finalists (the rest would never get in) would be:

• Bert Blyleven - A 287-250 pitcher on some dreadful teams.

• Andre Dawson - 2774 hits, 438 home runs. Never played in a World Series.

• Rich Gossage - 10 years as dominating closer. He's borderline for the same reason as Dale Murphy -- the second half of his career was less than spectacular.

• Jack Morris - Even with only 254 wins. Put the ball in his hands and you'd win.

• Dale Murphy - See Rich Gossage.

• Jim Rice - The only advantage Rice has over Murphy is batting average and an earlier retirement.

At the end of the day, I'd vote for Blyleven, Dawson, and Rice in that order.

I'd pass on McGwire because he was a dreadful player before the HGH/Steroids era. It's how I can justify seeing Bonds in and McGwire not in. I liked watching Dave Kingman hit, too, but McGwire's Oakland years resembled Kingman more than Bonds.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

My finalists (the rest would never get in) would be:

• Bert Blyleven - A 287-250 pitcher on some dreadful teams.

• Andre Dawson - 2774 hits, 438 home runs. Never played in a World Series.

• Rich Gossage - 10 years as dominating closer. He's borderline for the same reason as Dale Murphy -- the second half of his career was less than spectacular.

• Jack Morris - Even with only 254 wins. Put the ball in his hands and you'd win.

• Dale Murphy - See Rich Gossage.

• Jim Rice - The only advantage Rice has over Murphy is batting average and an earlier retirement.

At the end of the day, I'd vote for Blyleven, Dawson, and Rice in that order.

I'd pass on McGwire because he was a dreadful player before the HGH/Steroids era. It's how I can justify seeing Bonds in and McGwire not in. I liked watching Dave Kingman hit, too, but McGwire's Oakland years resembled Kingman more than Bonds.

How do you take the Goose and not Eckersley?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

How do you take the Goose and not Eckersley?

He's not on the list considering he was elected to the HOF in 2004.

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/ho...layerId=113726

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

He's not on the list considering he was elected to the HOF in 2004.

[giggle]