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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 09:21am
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2008 ASA Rule Changes

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5 2 1 Change Girl's 18-U A and B FP to 43 Feet. To bring consistency to all Junior Olympic Girls 18-U FP.
12 3 1 G Add: The bat barrel will be free of audible rattles when shaken. The barrel shall not have signs of excessive wear
21 4 6 D REMOVE: "The pitcher is not required to pitch until the first batter faced completes their time at bat or the side has been retired". Rules causes confusion.
33 5 9 A1 Fast Pitch: Add: 12 after 4 innings Prevent more lopsided ball games.
34 5 9 A2 Modified: Add: 15 after 3 innings Prevent more lopsided ball games.
35 5 9 A3 Slow Pitch: Add: 15 after 4 innings Prevent more lopsided ball games.
37 6 1 A SP In senior play the pitcher may take a position from the front edge of the pitchers plate to six feet behind the pitcher's plate within the 24 inches of the plate. Allows pitchers to pitch up to 56 feet from the batter.
38 6 3 A 16"SP If a step is taken it can be forward, back, or to the side, provided the pivot foot is in contact with the pitchers plate and the step is simultaneous with a hesitation or the release of the pitch. Clarifies the interpretation that a hesitation is a pitch.
39 6 3 G 16"SP ADD: A pick off attempt by the pitcher is a hesitation. Clarifies that pick-off is a hesitation.
45 7 4 B Slow Pitch: Add: Will use a strike mat that is 24 inches long and 17 inches wide. The Mat will fit behind home plate joing the plate at 8 1/2 inches from the plate. The combined distance of the Mat and the plate is a rectangular 32 1/2 inches long by 17 inches wide. A legal pitch striking any portion of the plate or mat will be a strike. Senior Players want this rule.
50 8 3 I All adult slow pitch, (excluding Masters and Seniors), don't have to run the bases on an over the fence home run or four base award. Speeds up the game.
51 8 4 F Change women's Open slow pitch to women's slow pitch. Allow stealing in all Women's SP.
52 8 4 G Delete complete section G. To allow all 10-U A & B to play regular softball rules.
55 8 8 7I 1a Add Hesitation pitch to 16 " Hesitation is part of the pitching motion.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 11:08am
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So are these official rule changes that will go into effect next year ?
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 11:16am
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Are there going to be some parameters for definining excessive wear?
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 11:53am
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Are there going to be some parameters for definining excessive wear?
There would need to be something, because if not, this could be wide open to interpretation, especially when someone uses an old bat that is still legal.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 12:44pm
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Before anyone copies this to a non-umpire site, Mike has Item 5 incorrect; there was a revision in the item order. Item 5 only adds 18A to 18 Gold in pitching from 43'; any 18B will remain at 40' (item 6 was rejected).
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 12:46pm
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Are there going to be some parameters for definining excessive wear?
The idea is to allow you, as an umpire, to judge what looks like abnormal wear, and reject a bat from today's game. The bats that have been rolled, viced, and otherwise broken in inappropriately, show wear; you can decide, with specific rule reference, that it is excessive in your opinion, today.
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 01:27pm
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The idea is to allow you, as an umpire, to judge what looks like abnormal wear, and reject a bat from today's game. The bats that have been rolled, viced, and otherwise broken in inappropriately, show wear; you can decide, with specific rule reference, that it is excessive in your opinion, today.
Thank you! I've been waiting for a specific rule to throw at them for just such a purpose!
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How far did the metal cleats change get? Did any of the subcommittees approve it, or was it DOA?
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Old Thu Nov 08, 2007, 02:22pm
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How far did the metal cleats change get? Did any of the subcommittees approve it, or was it DOA?
It got no where. In order, it was rejected by JO Committee, not sure what Umpire Committee recommended, Player Reps deferred to the JO rejection. Fast Pitch Playing Rules rejected, Playing Rules rejected; the Council decided to not address or reconsider the recommendation of the Playing Rules Committee.

In the Fast Pitch Playing Rules Committee, Mary Struckhoff stated that NFHS adopted it because there was no historical data suggesting that it would be more unsafe for females than males (hardly a ringing endorsement). When asked if there was any historical data suggesting it was equally safe, or more safe, Mary acknowledged that there was no historical data at all.

The motion to reject was near unanimous in that committee.
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