2008 HOF Ballot

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

A play on words. Cheeky, and a$$. Good one! I'm sure Steven Tyler would be proud.



First of all, the correct term to use is mother. Have some respect. As for the soap thing, we're in the 21st century. Studies have proven that corporal punishment is an ineffective way to solve problems.



What does disrespecting Ron Luciano have to do with one's childhood? I don't care how many Major League games he did. I read two of his books, and could list hundreds of idiotic things he admitted to doing as an umpire. To be associated with him is embarassing, so I don't understand why you are defending him.

That's the problem with you brats... I know my dad's belt straightened my a$$ up real quick. Same with moms soap. Doesn't work, no it worked very well. It taught me to respect those older than me. Something you need to learn.

[DG]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

That's the problem with you brats... I know my dad's belt straightened my a$$ up real quick. Same with moms soap. Doesn't work, no it worked very well. It taught me to respect those older than me. Something you need to learn.

Soap in the mouth. That's funny discipline.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by DG

Soap in the mouth. That's funny discipline.

Yeah, well let me tell ya, I NEVER said another cuss word anywhere within hearing distance of my mom for 10 years after.


Sure, spoil the child ruin the man

[canadaump6]

I do not have the experience of Ron Luciano. I have never eaten hotdogs while on the bases, called a balk because a fan said "that's a balk", distracted baserunners so that they get picked off, talked to batters simply to annoy them, shown up runners when I call them out, or any of the other insane things he did. Luciano forgot to wear his uniform for his first MLB game. It sounds like he's got some supporters here, but from what I've read about this guy, I probably wouldn't allow him to do machine pitch games if I was an assignor.

As for soap in the mouth and use of the cane, words can go a lot farther than the use of physical force. Studies have shown that using inductive methods of discipline is the most effective way to reinforce desired behaviours in children. Just because one or two people report physical punishment as being effective in dealing with aversive behaviour does not mean it is effective for the majority of the human population. Diana Baumrind's research on parenting styles shows that authoritarian parenting is associated with a number of negative outcomes in children. Committed complaince is much more effective than situational complaince in promoting the internalization of values needed to regulate behaviour.

Taken from "Child Psychology". Authors: Vasta, Miller, Ellis, Younger, Gosselin. Copyright 2006.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

I do not have the experience of Ron Luciano. I have never eaten hotdogs while on the bases, called a balk because a fan said "that's a balk", distracted baserunners so that they get picked off, talked to batters simply to annoy them, shown up runners when I call them out, or any of the other insane things he did. Luciano forgot to wear his uniform for his first MLB game. It sounds like he's got some supporters here, but from what I've read about this guy, I probably wouldn't allow him to do machine pitch games if I was an assignor.

As for soap in the mouth and use of the cane, words can go a lot farther than the use of physical force. Studies have shown that using inductive methods of discipline is the most effective way to reinforce desired behaviours in children. Just because one or two people report physical punishment as being effective in dealing with aversive behaviour does not mean it is effective for the majority of the human population. Diana Baumrind's research on parenting styles shows that authoritarian parenting is associated with a number of negative outcomes in children. Committed complaince is much more effective than situational complaince in promoting the internalization of values needed to regulate behaviour.

Taken from "Child Psychology". Authors: Vasta, Miller, Ellis, Younger, Gosselin. Copyright 2006.

My how you prattle.

First of all, in the interest of accuracy the title is Child Psychology, Canadian Edition.

Second, we underline book titles; we do not place them in quotes. Check with your English teacher father.

Third: "The problem with labelling all physical discipline as 'corporal punishment' is that it becomes too easy to dismiss those times, particularly when a child places his life or that of others in jeopardy, when some form of physical discipline may be appropriate. Scott Miller, University of Florida, co-author Child Psychology, Canadian Edition.

[JR12]

Brady Anderson-he went from speedy Punch and Judy hitter to 50 HR's. Plus he had 4% body fat and his impressive physique was on posters and magazines everwhere. I wonder if he was on roids?

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

That's the problem with you brats... I know my dad's belt straightened my a$$ up real quick. Same with moms soap. Doesn't work, no it worked very well. It taught me to respect those older than me. Something you need to learn.

"Spare the rod, spoil the child". That philosophy worked wonders in our house.