Need a rule referance and ruling, I can't find one.

[3appleshigh]

For this situation True or false, with rule citation please.

Team at bat has 10 eligable players, and are using a DH. Top of 5th 3rd baseman, in the ON DECK CIRCLE gets ejected for arguing balls and strikes, "the pitcher cannot come to bat since he can only pinch hit for the DH"

I know we can't forfiet the game, because they can field a team of 9 - Rule 4.17, but the DH rule does says no pinch hit, rule 6.10 B. I'm confused, what say you guys.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Rule 6.10

The Designated Hitter may be used defensively, continuing to bat in the same position in the batting order, but the pitcher must then bat in the place of the substituted defensive player....

So bat F1 in the ejected player's spot, and bring the DH in to play 3B, keeping his spot in the lineup.

[Bulldog]

OBR 6.10(b)
In this scenario, the DH enters the game and replaces the 3rd baseman on defense but is still locked in the batting rotation. The pitcher will assume the batting position of the defensive player.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by Bulldog

OBR 6.10(b)
In this scenario, the DH enters the game and replaces the 3rd baseman on defense but is still locked in the batting rotation. The pitcher will assume the batting position of the defensive player.

The DH is hitting in the pitcher's slot. You cannot enter the pitcher in another position in the batting order. I believe the question being asked is what if the team cannot field a line up of nine batters?

[bobbybanaduck]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

The DH is hitting in the pitcher's slot. You cannot enter the pitcher in another position in the batting order. I believe the question being asked is what if the team cannot field a line up of nine batters?

incorrect. while the game pitcher may only pinch hit for the DH, he can and must enter the batting order if the DH enters the game defensively. in the original sitch, when the 3rd baseman gets dumped, the manager must enter the DH defensively at 3B (keeping him in his spot in the batting order), which then forces the pitcher to bat in the spot vacated by the ejected 3B.

6.10(b) paragraph 5

The Designated Hitter may be used defensively, continuing to bat in the same opsition in the batting order, but the pitcher must then bat in the place of the substituted defensive player...

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by bobbybanaduck

incorrect. while the game pitcher may only pinch hit for the DH, he can and must enter the batting order if the DH enters the game defensively. in the original sitch, when the 3rd baseman gets dumped, the manager must enter the DH defensively at 3B (keeping him in his spot in the batting order), which then forces the pitcher to bat in the spot vacated by the ejected 3B.

6.10(b) paragraph 5

The Designated Hitter may be used defensively, continuing to bat in the same position in the batting order, but the pitcher must then bat in the place of the substituted defensive player...

Exactly. Not in the spot of the player who was ejected, unless the DH was ejected. Using the DH is like having ten starters in the batting order for all abject purposes, only two starters bat in the same spot.

[bobbybanaduck]

what?

[3appleshigh]

Thanks guys, but does it matter that we are not in a Defensive postion? I.E. the third baseman was ejected as an offensive player. I think this is where my issues lie. But I do agree with what has been discussed so far. Thanks a lot.