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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 07:20pm
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I suggest that we abandon the effort to coorect eveyone and accept that a ball tipped by the bat that goes backwards and is NOT caught by the catcher should now be called a FOUL TIP. That would be the easiest thing because everyone calls it a foul tip anyway. It makes sense because it is "foul" and it is a "tip."

Then we should create a new term to describe what we used to call a "foul tip." I suggest the new term be called a LIVE TIP. That term works because the it is a live ball that was tipped, and not using the word "foul" removes the confusion that the ball is, or is not, live.

Okay, then we follow that pattern and everytime an announcer or anyone else, for that matter, can't use proper terminologly, we make up new ones so they won't be mistaken.

Sheeeeeesh.

And I thought "no child left behind" was a disaster.

People, there is nothing wrong with a little education and expecting those who make a living broadcasting sports to understand and use the proper vocabulary.

The trend for the world to change because a couple of idiots can't seem to learn should not do to baseball what it has done to high school.
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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 07:55pm
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Okay, then we follow that pattern and everytime an announcer or anyone else, for that matter, can't use proper terminologly, we make up new ones so they won't be mistaken.

Sheeeeeesh.

And I thought "no child left behind" was a disaster.

People, there is nothing wrong with a little education and expecting those who make a living broadcasting sports to understand and use the proper vocabulary.

The trend for the world to change because a couple of idiots can't seem to learn should not do to baseball what it has done to high school.
I have never had to clear up anything that an announcer has said on a broadcast to my knowledge. Fans are usually in the dark when it comes to the rules and more than likely don't remember what they heard anyway.

So, come down off the ledge. If I had those two idiots money, I'd throw yours away.

BTW Professor-You misspelled a couple of words. Every time is two words, not one. Also, the word terminology, the very subject we're supposed to be discussing.
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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 08:06pm
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Okay, then we follow that pattern and everytime an announcer or anyone else, for that matter, can't use proper terminologly, we make up new ones so they won't be mistaken.

You're right, GarthB. Let's not do that. Instead, let's make a thorough understanding of what constitutes a foul tip a requirement for graduation from high school. And what would be more useful and important to know in life anyway, the definition of a foul tip or all that dumbed-down feel-good p.c. bull? And the concept of a foul tip, with all the circumstances that qualify a play as a foul tip or not, would be more cognitively challenging, too. The kids would learn the OBR definition in high school. In college, they would study the differences in the various codes, including softball. Graduate schools could teach the history of the foul tip, its psychosocial foundations, how Freud interpreted it, etc.

Now who would you rather have dinner with, somebody with a graduate degree in the foul tip, or a Ph.D. in how toothpaste ads oppress women?
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Old Wed Oct 31, 2007, 08:30pm
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Okay, then we follow that pattern and everytime an announcer or anyone else, for that matter, can't use proper terminologly, we make up new ones so they won't be mistaken.

You're right, GarthB. Let's not do that. Instead, let's make a thorough understanding of what constitutes a foul tip a requirement for graduation from high school. And what would be more useful and important to know in life anyway, the definition of a foul tip or all that dumbed-down feel-good p.c. bull? And the concept of a foul tip, with all the circumstances that qualify a play as a foul tip or not, would be more cognitively challenging, too. The kids would learn the OBR definition in high school. In college, they would study the differences in the various codes, including softball. Graduate schools could teach the history of the foul tip, its psychosocial foundations, how Freud interpreted it, etc.

Now who would you rather have dinner with, somebody with a graduate degree in the foul tip, or a Ph.D. in how toothpaste ads oppress women?
I'm not surprised the Steven Tyler can't read for comprehension, but I'm amazed at your reaction.

Oh, well, I failed to heed the words of the master. To paraphrase: No one ever went broke under estimating the intelligence of the American public.

In case my post was so unclear that others can't understand it, I am simply making the point that it makes no sense to change the rule book every time some goober can't use a term correctly.
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