The Lofton Out at Second

[cmckenna]

But if you watched the replay when they showed it again in one of the later innings, you could clearly see that yes Lofton's hand did touch the base but then he clearly came up off the bag and there was a time, while the tag was in contact where no part of Lofton was touching the bag.

Good call.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by cmckenna

But if you watched the replay when they showed it again in one of the later innings, you could clearly see that yes Lofton's hand did touch the base but then he clearly came up off the bag and there was a time, while the tag was in contact where no part of Lofton was touching the bag.

Good call.

It's obvious you would have missed the call in real time and in instant replay. The tag had most definitely come off of Lofton by the time he had come of the base. I had originally thought from the original camera angle this was reason for the out call, if Lofton was out at all. My contention is that poor positioning or lack of hustle by U2 is the major reasoning the call was incorrect.

I do not attend nor watch baseball games to witness the umpires in action. However, I cannot recall a U2 taking a throw from left field and making a call from that position. From the cut of the grass inside the infield, yes. From behind second with the runner between him, no.

BTW-No argument by Wedge or Lofton doesn't mean they don't think a close call wasn't missed. That's just part of the game. Poor positioning by a MLB umpire shouldn't be.

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

It's obvious you would have missed the call in real time and in instant replay. The tag had most definitely come off of Lofton by the time he had come of the base. I had originally thought from the original camera angle this was reason for the out call, if Lofton was out at all. My contention is that poor positioning or lack of hustle by U2 is the major reasoning the call was incorrect.

I do not attend nor watch baseball games to witness the umpires in action. However, I cannot recall a U2 taking a throw from left field and making a call from that position. From the cut of the grass inside the infield, yes. From behind second with the runner between him, no.

BTW-No argument by Wedge or Lofton doesn't mean they don't think a close call wasn't missed. That's just part of the game. Poor positioning by a MLB umpire shouldn't be.

Lofton lead off the inning. Position of the second base umpire is in center field. Remember the ball came off the Green Monster to the outfielder who threw to second. It would be next to impossible for him to get in the infield to make that call.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

It would be next to impossible for him to get in the infield to make that call.

However, if they were using Lance Cokalinski's 12 man mechanics, it would have been a piece of cake.

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[mbyron]

Originally Posted by GarthB

However, if they were using Lance Cokalinski's 12 man mechanics, it would have been a piece of cake.

Garth, I seem to remember Lance's mechanics applying to a 13-man crew: one umpire on each base, plus one on each member of the defense.

But I have no quarrel with the main point of your post.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

Lofton lead off the inning. Position of the second base umpire is in center field. Remember the ball came off the Green Monster to the outfielder who threw to second. It would be next to impossible for him to get in the infield to make that call.

Yes, I'm aware that Lofton was the lead off hitter and that the ball came off the Green Monster. Why would it be next to impossible? They've been getting inside for years at every ballpark in America, including Fenway. If Lofton has to run between 180' to 200', this slug should have been able to make at the maximum, 50'.

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

Yes, I'm aware that Lofton was the lead off hitter and that the ball came off the Green Monster. Why would it be next to impossible? They've been getting inside for years at every ballpark in America, including Fenway. If Lofton has to run between 180' to 200', this slug should have been able to make at the maximum, 50'.

Just curious. What level of ball do you work? I'm guessing little fields.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I do not attend nor watch baseball games to witness the umpires in action. However, I cannot recall a U2 taking a throw from left field and making a call from that position. From the cut of the grass inside the infield, yes. From behind second with the runner between him, no.

You must not have had MLB Extra Innings like I did this past season.