Just to add to that whole baseball is regional...

[lawump]

Just to add to that whole thread about baseball being regional:

http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/25/comm...sbiz/index.htm

I'm not saying that proves that baseball is "national". But if it has been reduced to being a regional sport, that's one he!! of a region.

[gordon30307]

I think it would be more proper to say that certain teams have a "national following" such as the Red Sox, Yankees, and Cubs (there may be more) as opposed to teams such as the Rockies, Brewers, Diamond Backs and Nationals for example who have a Regional-Local following.

Using the Cubs as an example I believe they are second to the Yankees (I could be mistaken but they're up there.) in attendance on the road.

If you include revenue from Minor League Baseball it may exceed the NFL or at leasr come close.

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[JRutledge]

Once again I think the point was completely missed. I think the average fan in MLB could not name players from all the teams even the smallest market teams. I watch baseball and I still cannot name or figure out who most of the Colorado players were. The NFL does a much better job in marketing players and even the worst teams in the league the average fans knows something about them.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I watch baseball and I still cannot name or figure out who most of the Colorado players were.

You must not watch a whole lot of baseball, or you would be familiar with at least a few players on every team. Those of us in an NL West city are certainly familiar with the Rockies starting lineup. It is quite evident that baseball is not your favorite spectator sport, but it is for many of us.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

...and even the worst teams in the league the average fans knows something about them.

Peace

Hardly. I'm an avid NFL fan. It's a close second to baseball in my heart, but I confess: I cannot name ONE player on the Oakland Raiders, the Buccaneers, Titans, Chiefs, and probably a couple more. I kid you not. I have the NFL Sunday Ticket, too, and still can't name a single player on any of those aforementioned teams. And I consider myself a sports nut!

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Hardly. I'm an avid NFL fan. It's a close second to baseball in my heart, but I confess: I cannot name ONE player on the Oakland Raiders, the Buccaneers, Titans, Chiefs, and probably a couple more. I kid you not. I have the NFL Sunday Ticket, too, and still can't name a single player on any of those aforementioned teams. And I consider myself a sports nut!

I'm pretty sure UmpLarryJohnson plays for the Chiefs!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Hardly. I'm an avid NFL fan. It's a close second to baseball in my heart, but I confess: I cannot name ONE player on the Oakland Raiders, the Buccaneers, Titans, Chiefs, and probably a couple more. I kid you not. I have the NFL Sunday Ticket, too, and still can't name a single player on any of those aforementioned teams. And I consider myself a sports nut!

Donte Culpepper went to the Raiders after being at Miami for a year after he was released. And Jamarcus Russell was their first round draft pick this year.

The Buccaneers has Jeff Garcia that was with the Eagles when Donavan McNabb was hurt

Vince Young is with the Titans and was a first round draft pick last season and is on the cover of Madden 08.

The Chiefs have Larry Johnson and Priest Holmes which came back a neck injury about 2 years ago.

Now that was without looking. Stop calling yourself an avid if you cannot name some of these names.

And the Patriots-Redskins game had more viewers in the middle of the season (52-7) at a different time than the World Series later that night when the Red Sox won the WS. The NFL game received over a 14.0 Nielsen rating and the World Series was around a 10.0-11.0 rating.

I worked my first round playoff game on last Friday for the IHSA Playoffs. It rained 30 minutes before the game until the game ended. There were more people in the stands and on the sides of the fences in that one game then there was all my Class A and AA Post Season Baseball games combined during the 2007 season. And the weather was much nicer during every game and with the sun out most of the time as well. And this is an avid baseball town.

Peace

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I worked my first round playoff game on last Friday for the IHSA Playoffs. It rained 30 minutes before the game until the game ended. There were more people in the stands and on the sides of the fences in that one game then there was all my Class A and AA Post Season Baseball games combined during the 2007 season. And the weather was much nicer during every game and with the sun out most of the time as well. And this is an avid baseball town.

Peace

Now you're just being ridiculous, JR.

A. Football stands have FAR greater capacity than do baseball stands, especially at high schools. Duh. (And I don't think the schools play a schedule composed of 20, 30, 40, or more football games. Of course, you didn't know that.)

B. Autumn in Chicagoland has, for the last several years, been much better weather-wise than has spring, when baseball plays. I guess that's baseball's fault, too, huh?

Really. Your posts when attempting to make a "point" have truly gone beyond illogical; they're downright stupid.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The Chiefs have Larry Johnson and Priest Holmes which came back a neck injury about 2 years ago.

Don't forget veteran linebacker, Donnie Edwards whom the Chiefs picked up in the off season amongst others .

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by msavakinas

the phrase sports nut obviously doesn't mean as much as it used to. hate to break it to you but you need to start watching your NFL ticket or just give it to me... because you're obviously not putting it to any use

Oh, I put it to use. I consider it money well-spent for one reason: the Pittsburgh Steelers. I subscribe to the package for the Steelers alone. I don't watch anyone else but the Steelers and Bears, save for an occasional matchup that isn't carried by CBS or FOX as a national game or isn't carried on one of my Distant Network Signal (DNS) feeds.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Oh, I put it to use. I consider it money well-spent for one reason: the Pittsburgh Steelers. I subscribe to the package for the Steelers alone. I don't watch anyone else but the Steelers and Bears, save for an occasional matchup that isn't carried by CBS or FOX as a national game or isn't carried on one of my Distant Network Signal (DNS) feeds.

In all fairness to those who don't consider you to be an "avid NFL fan," from what you are saying here it appears you are merely an avid Steelers and Bears fan.

I consider myself a voracious NFL fan, and I can name a good many starters and reserves on every team in the league. I watch every single game available in my area each Sunday. I always watch Monday Night Football. I play in two fantasy football leagues on NFL.com and ESPN.com and I closely monitor all of the star players and worthwhile bench players. That is what I consider to be an avid NFL fan.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

Using the Cubs as an example I believe they are second to the Yankees (I could be mistaken but they're up there.) in attendance on the road.

Actually, Red Sox were first and Yankees second in road attendance this year. I don't know where the Cubs ranked.