Rockies/D-Backs...Willful and Deliberate Interference?

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Those NAMBLA guys should have their reservations canceled. Freaks.


-Emily Litella

Hey, i got it Kyle.

Nice South Park reference

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by bossman72

Hey, i got it Kyle.

Nice South Park reference

Really? It was a Saturday Night Live reference last I checked.

[greymule]

the rule that you are thinking was enforced is not correct. the rule that was enforced was that the batter-runner was called out because interference was committed by a runner already out- - not because of willful and deliberate interference by a runner.

I'm not sure of your point. I mentioned 7.09(f), which says nothing about willful and deliberate interference, which is in 7.09(g) with regard to batted balls. Nor did I mention willful and deliberate interference in my posts. The examples I gave of what runners used to get away with are violations of 7.09(f), as you say, interference by a runner already out. It's true that the examples might also be willful and deliberate, but those violations fall under 7.09(f).

[Dave Reed]

Greymule and tkaufman,

The rules are slightly different now, and the letter sequencing of 7.09(?) has been affected. My OBR rulebook, published in 2003, has several paragraphs shifted one letter as compared to the rules as available on MLB.com today.

Old 7.09(f) reads "Any batter or runner.....". In the newer version of the rules, that is rule7.09(e). And the same offset applies to (f) and (g). So at least part of the contention is trivially explained.

MLB.com now has the rules in PDF format, and they are convenient to use and search. Greymule, I recommend that you use these rules rather than older books.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

MLB.com now has the rules in PDF format, and they are convenient to use and search.

I can't find the entire MLB rule book in PDF format. Can you give me a link?

I did however find these handy dandy 2007 MLB rules changes in PDF. Here is this link:

http://mlb.mlb.com/pressbox/download...ges_021607.pdf

[greymule]

Greymule, I recommend that you use these rules rather than older books.

Yes, I'm using a 2001 book. That's where the problem lies. I should know better.

After my game today, I'm going to stop by Borders and use my discount coupon to get a new book.

[Interested Ump]

[QUOTE=tkaufman
you are correct that 7.09 (g) also refers to willful and deliberate, except with regards to the b/r. i was just pointing out that these two rules (7.09 (f,g)) were not put into place until the 1950's because of the cheating jackie robinson.[/QUOTE]

Care to be more forthcoming on the "cheating" Robinson statements?

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Really? It was a Saturday Night Live reference last I checked.

Never seen it on SNL, but south park had a whole episode called "Cartman Joins NAMBLA." The whole conflict in the episode was between the "North American Man-Boy Love Association" (NAMBLA) and the "North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes" (NAMBLA). One of my favorite episodes

[greymule]

I suggest we raise money to send the NAMBLA people on a sightseeing tour of Iran.

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by greymule

I suggest we raise money to send the NAMBLA people on a sightseeing tour of Iran.

"The Godfather Meets The Shah"

[kylejt]

Screw you guys, I'm goin' home.

[Dave Reed]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I can't find the entire MLB rule book in PDF format. Can you give me a link?

Well, at MLB.com under "Official Info" near the bottom of the page is a link entitled Official Rules. That works. Or you can use this link http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info...s/foreword.jsp
There are 11 separate PDF files, one for each section and an index.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Dave Reed

Well, at MLB.com under "Official Info" near the bottom of the page is a link entitled Official Rules. That works. Or you can use this link http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info...s/foreword.jsp
There are 11 separate PDF files, one for each section and an index.

Oh, they changed them. Thanks. More crap to clutter up my desktop even further.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by bossman72

Never seen it on SNL, but south park had a whole episode called "Cartman Joins NAMBLA." The whole conflict in the episode was between the "North American Man-Boy Love Association" (NAMBLA) and the "North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes" (NAMBLA). One of my favorite episodes

Yes that was a good episode. However, kyplejt credited Emily Litella, a SNL character, with the quote.