Rockies/D-Backs...Willful and Deliberate Interference?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by kylejt

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-Emily Litella

No, Emily, it's "NABA," not "NAMBLA"...it's just an adult baseball league.


-Chevy Chase

[kylejt]

Oh.




Never mind.

[jicecone]

Here we go again with idiot announcers:

Implications to date:

Di/Rock - The Rockies are still in the playoff because of McCleeland, our home plate umpire tonight.

Ron Darling - Concerning the Int. call at second. "I just wish the umpires would let the players decide the game."

[PeteBooth]

That's because when Ron Darling played, the play at second was what the runner was supposed to do and no interference was called.

This year alone we have had 3 Intentional Interfernce calls and as I mentioned above I cannot remember the last time in MLB Intentional Interference was called.

We will wait and see if this is addressed after this year.

Pete Booth

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by PeteBooth

That's because when Ron Darling played, the play at second was what the runner was supposed to do and no interference was called.

This year alone we have had 3 Intentional Interfernce calls and as I mentioned above I cannot remember the last time in MLB Intentional Interference was called.

We will wait and see if this is addressed after this year.

Pete Booth

I agree, but you would think that after one or two calls if MLB did not want it enforced they would have past it down to the officials.

Then again, maybe that is only my warped logic of how things should be done. Sorry!

[UmpJM]

The only thing wrong with that call is that Clint Hurdle had to come out afterwards & remind them to return the runner (R2 at start of the play) from 3B to 2B.

JM

[johnnyg08]

I guess if you call that being wrong...I would like to call it "working as a crew" but that's just me.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

I guess if you call that being wrong...I would like to call it "working as a crew" but that's just me.

I'd call it a goof by U2 and/or U3. One of them should have been on this right away. It's U2's runner, but U3 should have covered him on it. Neither caught it. So yeah, they were wrong. Again, this wasn't such a great call, just a correct one, followed by a miscue. When the manager has to come on the field and point out a basic rule, then I'd stop calling it a "GREAT CALL!". I'm guessing if the runner were put back right away you wouldn't have crap thrown on the field. But they had to conference on this one, and that fanned the flames. Umpiring 101 guys, and they only got a 50%.

[greymule]

Watch highlight films of games from the 1940s and 1950s and you won't have to wait long to see non-calls on plays far more obvious even than the one last night. Runners grab fielders' arms, crash fielders 15 feet out of the baseline, stay on their feet and collide past 2B, "slide" into the fielder without even touching the ground. I suspect that if a runner didn't do at least a rolling block, he'd get chewed out by his manager.

I don't know what a runner would have had to do to get called for interference in the old days. It would be interesting to know how often 7.09(f) was invoked (if it ever was). I wonder if Cobb was ever called for it.

Justin Upton claims it was merely a pop-up slide:

"I told him [the umpire] I was close enough to the bag," Upton said. "When I slide, I put one hand down, and then I pop up. That's what you're supposed to do."

Right, Justin.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by greymule

Watch highlight films of games from the 1940s and 1950s and you won't have to wait long to see non-calls on plays far more obvious even than the one last night. Runners grab fielders' arms, crash fielders 15 feet out of the baseline, stay on their feet and collide past 2B, "slide" into the fielder without even touching the ground. I suspect that if a runner didn't do at least a rolling block, he'd get chewed out by his manager.

I don't know what a runner would have had to do to get called for interference in the old days. It would be interesting to know how often 7.09(f) was invoked (if it ever was). I wonder if Cobb was ever called for it.

Justin Upton claims it was merely a pop-up slide:

"I told him [the umpire] I was close enough to the bag," Upton said. "When I slide, I put one hand down, and then I pop up. That's what you're supposed to do."

Right, Justin.

Would you allow a player to bounce the ball in and out of his glove before declaring a catch or touch of the ball, allowing a base-runner to tag up and run? The rule used to be that way. Just as the Jackie Robinson rule was put in place for interference on a runner. The man was smart and knew the rule of his day. The game is evolving still to this day. It was gross interference in my minds eyes, I yelled it out before I saw he called it. Had he slid directly into the pivot man, he would have got away with it. He didn't, as the replay clearly showed it. Good call.

[UmpLarryJohnson]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Ron Darling - Concerning the Int. call at second. "I just wish the umpires would let the players decide the game."

The player DID DECIDE the game--he commited clear and blatant interferance and killed his own teams rally!!

[JJ]

For decades in Pro ball players have been "taking care of" those players who committed such "unacceptable acts" against other players. Now the umpires have stepped in and potentially opened a Pandora's Box. I can see coaches coming out regularly asking "Why wasn't THAT one called?", when in the past an offender would get plunked or buzzed and that was that. Point made.
Of course, if the umpires call this kind of play, maybe fewer players will get plunked and that may solve the bigger problem of umpires having to break up brawls and the Commissioner having to mete out suspensions. Double edged sword, would you say? Which is the lesser of the two evils?

JJ

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by JJ

Which is the lessor of the two evils?

JJ

I vote for the enforcing the rules as they are written in the book. Somehow I don't see that as evil at all. In fact, if you umpire at any other level than MLB, that call made our lives a whole lot easier.

[TxUmp]

Originally Posted by JJ

Which is the lessor of the two evils?

JJ

Who has a lease on "the two evils"?

I think you mean "lesser".

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