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Old Sun Oct 07, 2007, 09:08am
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Who will replace Froemming?

George Steinbrenner was upset with Bruce Froemming's handling of the "buggy" game in Cleveland. The Yankee boss is quoted in the New Jersey Register:

"The umpire was full of [expletive]," Steinbrenner said of the retiring Froemming. "He won't umpire our games anymore."

So who fills in for Froemming tonight?
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Old Sun Oct 07, 2007, 09:33am
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Haha well I don't know about tonight, but Froemming's spot for next year has already been filled by the rehiring of Hallion and Hickox. Tough break for Rob Drake who probably would have been next in line.
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Old Sun Oct 07, 2007, 09:35am
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Great, now the trolls are encouraging the sniffers.
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Old Sun Oct 07, 2007, 09:54am
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Haha well I don't know about tonight, but Froemming's spot for next year has already been filled by the rehiring of Hallion and Hickox. Tough break for Rob Drake who probably would have been next in line.
Based on size alone , it is not surprising that it takes two officials to replace Froemming.
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Old Sun Oct 07, 2007, 02:54pm
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Based on size alone , it is not surprising that it takes two officials to replace Froemming.
That was cruel!
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Old Sun Oct 07, 2007, 09:18pm
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Based on size alone , it is not surprising that it takes two officials to replace Froemming.
Despite his size, Bruce is still one of the quickest umpires out there. He used to win bets in match races against people who perceived him to be slow afoot.
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Old Sun Oct 07, 2007, 11:36pm
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Despite his size, Bruce is still one of the quickest umpires out there. He used to win bets in match races against people who perceived him to be slow afoot.
That may have been true a few years ago. It isn't now.
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2007, 10:26am
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That may have been true a few years ago. It isn't now.
Yeah. I almost, but didn't, mentioned this at the time a certain play was all over this board. On the play precipitating the Mike Winters incident, Bradley singled to center. Froemming was U2 that game; you get a real good look at him hustling into the infield from his initial CF spot.

A quadriplegic would've been just as quick.
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Old Wed Oct 10, 2007, 04:06pm
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Despite his size, Bruce is still one of the quickest umpires out there. He used to win bets in match races against people who perceived him to be slow afoot.
If this is true, what a horrible indictment of the MLB umpires motor capabilities.
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Old Sun Oct 07, 2007, 11:03pm
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Haha well I don't know about tonight, but Froemming's spot for next year has already been filled by the rehiring of Hallion and Hickox. Tough break for Rob Drake who probably would have been next in line.

Hallion and Hickok were re-hired but they did not take Froemming's spot nor is it a lock that they will. I thought based on what I had read when they and Bob Davidson were set to be re-hired that they had a pre-determined order as to "when" they would be officially re-hired. When Terry Craft retired last year, I thought one of the two (Hallion or Hickox) would get his spot. Instead it was Lance Barksdale. Then during the offseason, Hallion and Hickok were officially rehired as part of the WBC/TV mic negotiations. They are considered rovers. Now whether or not they simply slide them onto a crew to fill Froemming's spot, I don't know. I would defer to someone with an inner knowledge of MLB workings.
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Hallion and Hickok were re-hired but they did not take Froemming's spot nor is it a lock that they will. I thought based on what I had read when they and Bob Davidson were set to be re-hired that they had a pre-determined order as to "when" they would be officially re-hired. When Terry Craft retired last year, I thought one of the two (Hallion or Hickox) would get his spot. Instead it was Lance Barksdale. Then during the offseason, Hallion and Hickok were officially rehired as part of the WBC/TV mic negotiations. They are considered rovers. Now whether or not they simply slide them onto a crew to fill Froemming's spot, I don't know. I would defer to someone with an inner knowledge of MLB workings.
Where is Chris Griffin fitting in with all this? Still a year or 2 away?
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Old Mon Oct 08, 2007, 10:00am
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Where is Chris Griffin fitting in with all this? Still a year or 2 away?
Chris Griffin is in Quahog. I think you mean Chris Griffith.

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According to my close friend (AAA crew chief and MLB reserve), he told me in August that 3 MLBers would have to retire for one AAA guy to be promoted. That is, MLB was planning to drop back down to 68. Of course, things could have changed since we last talked...but that's what he said at the end of August.
Does MLB plan on keeping guys like Guccione/Drake/Hoye around until those jobs open up? These guys have worked a lot of games this year and seem to be pretty much full time MLB reserves, almost like Lance Barksdale was before he was hired.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2007, 11:19am
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Does MLB plan on keeping guys like Guccione/Drake/Hoye around until those jobs open up? These guys have worked a lot of games this year and seem to be pretty much full time MLB reserves, almost like Lance Barksdale was before he was hired.
I don't know...no one did at the time of our conversation.
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I would be willing to venture a safe guess that Hallion is going to be around full time for a while now. According worldumpires.com's website, Hallion is on the NLCS umpiring crew this year. So, I would think with that assignment, he is back as a full time umpire for MLB.
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Old Tue Oct 09, 2007, 01:52pm
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I would be willing to venture a safe guess that Hallion is going to be around full time for a while now. According worldumpires.com's website, Hallion is on the NLCS umpiring crew this year. So, I would think with that assignment, he is back as a full time umpire for MLB.
Ed Hickox worked an NLDS.

These guys were re-hired in March.

But thanks. Your sleuthiness is second to none.
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