Type B Obstruction - BAL@BOS

[TussAgee11]

I know where I have seen this tactic work in saving a coach.

I too have seen this work at the NCAA level. I'm not sure if I can find the video, but a PU saved a 1st base coach who was hot on the BU at A after a call. Helped that PU was hustling up to the 45 foot line.

Not sure why Joe used this tactic here other than to save the coach. I know rats fairly well, and know that another umpire coming to interrupt their conversation with the original umpire would send them into the tailspin of "I'm not talking to you!" which causes more problems. Little do they know that the other umpire is just trying to save their ***.

I think this tactic best works when a manager isn't being PPP, but has been in conversation with the original umpire for 30 or more seconds. Then you are saving him by getting him off the field in a timely manner, not saving him from PPP. If they've already gone to PPP, they should just be dumped by the original guy.

Just my .02

[johnnyg08]

Okay...if I may ask a question here to put a little different spin on things...let's say that R3 was going back to 3B and he was obstructed going back to 3B as F2 is making a play on him, but he makes it back to 3B and/or was thrown out going back to 3B...since a play was being made on him, does that make this Type 1 OBS and we'd award home to R3...also, during this the B/R has advanced to 2B...where do you place B/R and under what circumstances would you not allow B/R to stay at 2B?

Thanks guys.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Okay...if I may ask a question here to put a little different spin on things...let's say that R3 was going back to 3B and he was obstructed going back to 3B as F2 is making a play on him, but he makes it back to 3B and/or was thrown out going back to 3B...since a play was being made on him, does that make this Type 1 OBS and we'd award home to R3...also, during this the B/R has advanced to 2B...where do you place B/R and under what circumstances would you not allow B/R to stay at 2B?

Thanks guys.

Under OBR, if a play is being made on a runner, it's an immediate dead ball. That runner is awarded at least one base, but can be awarded more if the umpire judges he would have done so absent the obstruction (very rare, unless the ball is in the air at the time of the obstruction and is not caught by a fielder).

Other runners are awarded bases that they would have obtained absent the obstruction -- generally, if they are advancing at the time of the obstruction, they are awarded the advance base.

[johnnyg08]

Thank you.