The rule:
From Post 8
From Post 11
What you're saying is you're going to disregard the part of the rule that states, "The mere holding of the bat in the strike zone is not an attempt to hit the ball" and you're going to rule - no, wait... judge this as an attempt. I think we all hear you loud and clear.

That would appear to be correct, walt.

Are you incapable of putting this statement in context with the rest of the post?


Show me one statement in context that says that.

Either you have a severe problem with comprehension and understanding the written word or you're so prejudice you can't read straight.
which is it?

Nah, he got it right. You're trying to get away with calling it "judgement". Nice try.

[QUOTE=fitump56][quote=bob jenkins]:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Not as far as I'm concerned, that's for sure. For one thing, I actually know what the definition of a bunt is--and it's different from a swing. Unless he's actually making an attempt to push the bat forward when the ball passes the bat, I've got a ball and not a strike. That, in fact, is the ruling, and not the UOBR interpretation some here seem to believe.

Of course, we all know what happens when we try to @ssume...

Can someone please answer this question? It's bugging me. I'm sure I've seen it in OBR somewhere but I just can't find it.

Forward is it? Not what the rule says, the rule says "at" the ball. So you would not call a strike if B drops or raises his bat vertically with no forward push if the ball is above or below his bat, in an obvious attempt to bunt? I guess not. :eek:

Okay, Don. I'll play along. Let's suspend reality for a moment and assume that my comprehension skills are deficient. Go ahead and put your statements in terms that I can understand.

Make it succinct, because between what you've written in this thread and what you've said in the OBS thread you don't appear to have a lot of credibility.

Simply put:

It is very difficult to remain motionless when squared to bunt.
If there is any movement forward or toward the ball I will strike it.
The benefit of doubt will certainly be in favor of F1.
If the batter makes no attempt to pull back I will look hard for an attempt.
You may not like that attitude but it is within the rules.
My op was a heads up to flemmer (I figured he was a coach) and other coaches that to teach kids to keep the bat over the plate, for whatever reason, may not be a good idea.
I was not trying to talk you out of giving up strikes.

I disagree with this statement. (Okay, to be clear, I don't disagree that Don does it; I disagree that he, or any umpire, should do it).

An umpire needn't "look hard" for an attempt. He just needs to watch the actions and judge accordingly.

It's obvious you don't even know the definition of the word "push" now. :rolleyes:

When you come to an exit door that says "push," do you yank real hard and wonder why it won't open? :rolleyes:

This should be sufficient:

OBR 2.00

A STRIKE is a legal pitch when so called by the umpire, which -

(a) Is struck at by the batter and is missed;

[QUOTE=UMP25][QUOTE=fitump56]Question.

Obvious sac situation, batter squares early, bat across the plate and at the very top of strike zone. F1 delivers, pitch is 1" above the bat and out of the zone, batter makes no offer, no movement, ball misses bat by 1".
Who's going to be the first brave soul to step up and say they're balling this pitch?

I'll be the first. No movement, no attempt. It's pretty cut and dry, Don.


Tim.

Mr. Mueller,

Done it once this year. Did it twice last year.