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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 09:03am
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And that is your perogative Rich however, there are times that "assuming" that bucket of balls is rolling around because of your decision on the field, can get you in trouble.
Trouble? Not in the games I work, trust me. I don't work D1, MiLB, or MLB, though.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 09:37am
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I'm not whining, but ...

In the original sitch, believe me that the visual and aural displays by coach were huge and loud.

The only reason I missed the kick of the ball bucket was because I was hustling back to "D," thinking the contretemps was over.

It's also small ball [pause for you to come up with pejorative thoughts], plus "dugouts" were at ground level.

I know few umps, at any level, who would have totally ignored this display, IMHO.

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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 09:43am
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I know few umps, at any level, who would have totally ignored this display, IMHO.

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This is a good point, imo.

Too many umpires seem to think that the only two choices are to ignore or to eject. There are a whole range of actions in-between.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 10:03am
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Not only that Bob, but it's also small ball.

If I saw it as U1, I would look to you to see if you saw it, simply because his actions are aimed towards you (not that we aren't a team out there). Since you were going back to D, I would have ejected at this point, if his actions were loud and obnoxious from the dugout. Sounds like not one person in the whole park didn't know what he totally did but you, which happens. Thats why we have lots of eyes, our partners. Sorry it wasn't taken care of.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 12:30pm
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In the original sitch, believe me that the visual and aural displays by coach were huge and loud.

The only reason I missed the kick of the ball bucket was because I was hustling back to "D," thinking the contretemps was over.

It's also small ball [pause for you to come up with pejorative thoughts], plus "dugouts" were at ground level.

I know few umps, at any level, who would have totally ignored this display, IMHO.

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Ace, I guess I HTBT but, as Bob has already stated there are many choices an official has to make between and including ignor and eject.

Whether it is small ball, big ball, little ball etc., I do not go to the games to babysit or teach coaches or players how to play or behave. I am there to officiate the game of baseball. By the same token, I will not fail to handle any trouble that falls within the confines of the rules and will stay within my authority dictated by those rules. I let the players and coaches dictate how and when I will reacte to whatever shenanigans that may happen.I do not need to show them who is charge because I know that in the end, I have the final say and will be.

If that results in their ejection, well that is their problem.

I am sorry, I do not have preconceived ideas about how each game is going to be officiated at any level. I will know the rules , hustle, act professional and treat the players and coaches with the utmost respect. Hopefully I will be able to slip out the gate at the end and they won't even know I was there, which is more of the norm for me.

IMO, each official, has a different approach on how to handle these situations, choose one that works for you and make it work.
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