Had to dump 3...or did I?

[PeteBooth]

I do not have a problem with the ejections. Regardless of the call, people need to behave. It's ok for the manager / player to give their $.02 (provided no F Bomb or any derogattory statements made directly at the umpire) but after that it's time to play ball, however,

IMO, as others such as TEE, Bob et al have tried to explain in FED, from the OP it's a FPSR violation.

IMO, here's what you are missing:

If the FPSR was called initially perhaps none of the "other" stuff would have taken place which is the point the posters are trying to explain.

As mentioned, I do not agree with the behavior that was displayed but that is typical of mens adult leagues.

Also, what has me puzzled is that I have been umpiring mens adult wood bat leagues for years and none of them plays by FED rules.

Home plate is treated like any other base in FED. In fact there is case play on the play at the plate. We all were not there but from the strict reading of the OP it's a FPSR violation and if you are going to play by FED rules, then you need to understand them and make the call.

Pete Booth

[canadaump6]

Upon reading the first couple pages of this thread, I was worried that UmpLarryJohnson was back and we would have to listen to his jibberish again. Then I saw that the thread is about 4 months old.

But like oyaisee was saying, the original poster was not asking for a rule interpretation. I thought his third ejection was a bit early, but I liked his first two. Any time a player gets in my face, or approaches me violently, he's tossed.

[UmpLarryJohnson]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

Upon reading the first couple pages of this thread, I was worried that UmpLarryJohnson was back and we would have to listen to his jibberish again. Then I saw that the thread is about 4 months old.

not goin any where kid. your gonna have to do beter than find old posts of mine for that. but we'll be here to laff at you as you mentally soil yourself so to say

[3appleshigh]

Not that it matters, but with FPSR, does there need to be a Good chance for the Catcher to retire thre runner involved in the decision? Without a throw here, I wonder if the catcher choose not to throw? I'm just curious, as I don't currently deal with this rule, but could easily see having to in the future.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh

Not that it matters, but with FPSR, does there need to be a Good chance for the Catcher to retire thre runner involved in the decision? Without a throw here, I wonder if the catcher choose not to throw? I'm just curious, as I don't currently deal with this rule, but could easily see having to in the future.

I don't think you have a grasp on the Force Play Slide Rule. It has nothing to do with a throw from the catcher.

[canadaump6]

Originally Posted by 3appleshigh

Not that it matters, but with FPSR, does there need to be a Good chance for the Catcher to retire thre runner involved in the decision? Without a throw here, I wonder if the catcher choose not to throw? I'm just curious, as I don't currently deal with this rule, but could easily see having to in the future.

I think you're talking about batter interference.

[Forest Ump]

3 A H ,

This may provide you a better understanding of the FPSR http://www.umpire.org/writers/force.html

[SanDiegoSteve]

Oh, as opposed to your jibberish?

I'll take Larry's, thank you.

[RPatrino]

I don't know about anyone else, but I find little value in discussing past ejections. So you ejected some participants, good for you. If you don't want to discuss the calls that precipitated those ejections, that is your business.
I personally find much more value in talking about how the rule was misapplied then in the meltdowns that followed.

Everyone makes their own decisions about when and whether to eject. Nothing we say here is going to change that.