Complaints, Change And Resistance

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by charliej47

By your definition everyone is always under someone's thumb. When you pay to have you hair cut, they are under your thumb. When you go to work, you are under your bosses thumb.

The answer is simple. Does that person, company or entity pay me; if they do, how important to their existence or lifestyle are those $$$.

Or you can look at it as a business transaction. That is why in the state of Ohio I am labeled a contractor. The HS contracts with me to perform a piece of work under certain conditions and I sign a contract that obligates both of us.

When I "contract" to umpire a ball game, it is under certain conditions. I am an independent contractor performing "piece of work" "umpiring a ball game" for a certain amount of money under established rules that I will enforce and they can not change.

Being an IC means nothing. The only real question is, "Do I need the money
" (either as IC or employee). If you do, then all the chest pounding about how independent we are is nothing but chest pounding. If you really don't, then don't take it.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by fitump56

The answer is simple. Does that person, company or entity pay me; if they do, how important to their existence or lifestyle are those $$$.



Being an IC means nothing. The only real question is, "Do I need the money
" (either as IC or employee). If you do, then all the chest pounding about how independent we are is nothing but chest pounding. If you really don't, then don't take it.

Being an Independent Contrator has nothing to do with being able to work the job anyway you want. It means you are responsible for your taxes, insurance, medical insurance, etc. Which also means that the expenses of performing your job, travel, equipment, dues, some forms of insurance, etc, are deductible from your gross pay.

Independent does not mean being able to change the job desription or " do your own thing".

[Publius]

Originally Posted by jimpiano

Being an Independent Contrator has nothing to do with being able to work the job anyway you want. It means you are responsible for your taxes, insurance, medical insurance, etc. Which also means that the expenses of performing your job, travel, equipment, dues, some forms of insurance, etc, are deductible from your gross pay.

Independent does not mean being able to change the job desription or " do your own thing".

Being an independent contractor has a helluva lot to do with being able to work a job the way you want. The control of the choice of methods in completing the work is one of the defining differences between an employee and an IC.

Being an IC doesn't necessarily mean your expenses are fully deductible, either. You have to operate with a profit motive.

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by Publius

Being an independent contractor has a helluva lot to do with being able to work a job the way you want. The control of the choice of methods in completing the work is one of the defining differences between an employee and an IC.

Being an IC doesn't necessarily mean your expenses are fully deductible, either. You have to operate with a profit motive.

Really?

That may be true if you are cutting grass.

But try making up your own rules for baseball and see how far you get.