Balk Followed by Hit

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Correct.

Calling balks properly when working under FED helps prevent unnecessary discussions.

Callin balks in the same manner under both codes might be helpful to those who can't remember which rule is applicable, but if you still have at least three remaining brain cells functioning, it is an unnecessary crutch.

There is no "proper" way to call a FED balk. Mechanics are not discussed in the rulebook and the FED mechanics manual is best thrown out when received.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

There is no "proper" way to call a FED balk. Mechanics are not discussed in the rulebook and the FED mechanics manual is best thrown out when received.

C'mon, Rich. You're right about pitching the FED ump manual, but surely FED is entitled to their view concerning the enforcement of their balk rule. We could refer to this as the "proper" way.

Am I missing your larger point? You're not usually one to quibble...

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mbyron

C'mon, Rich. You're right about pitching the FED ump manual, but surely FED is entitled to their view concerning the enforcement of their balk rule. We could refer to this as the "proper" way.

Am I missing your larger point? You're not usually one to quibble...

Yes, I think you're missing the larger point. Rich is talking about the way the balk is called, not the enforcement of the rule.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Yes, I think you're missing the larger point. Rich is talking about the way the balk is called, not the enforcement of the rule.

Exactly. In other words, someone with a FED manual -- does it actually prescribe the words and the order in which they're to be said?

Even if it DOES, it really doesn't matter unless you use the FED mechanics for EVERYTHING else.

[UmpJM]

Rich,

Verbatim from the 2007 FED Umpire Manual (#22 on p.17 for those following along at home):

22. When a balk occurs, the ball is dead immediately. Whenever a balk occurs, the umpire will throw up his hands, which signifies the ball is dead, and call "balk." ...

And you throw this gem away?!?!? I find it makes an excellent coaster.

JM

[Rich]

Originally Posted by CoachJM

Rich,

Verbatim from the 2007 FED Umpire Manual (#22 on p.17 for those following along at home):



And you throw this gem away?!?!? I find it makes an excellent coaster.

JM

My God. Are we supposed to throw our hands up in the traditional Smitty method -- as if I was being held up at a liquor store?

[fitump56]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

My God. Are we supposed to throw our hands up in the traditional Smitty method -- as if I was being held up at a liquor store?

Question.
If the traditional Smitty style works best for a given situation, would you rather be effective or stylish?