Overrunning 1B

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by C'monBlue

Under what circumstances would he be out "if no play is being made on him"???

No idea, hes like "Clean hit to left field, BR overruns first base. On a throw over there, he is liable to be put out because no original play was being made on him"

There was no intent to go to second, ect.

I know this is insane right?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mrm21711

I know this is insane right?

Yes, insane.

As long as he immediately returns to first, he cannot be tagged out. If he stops to adjust his junk or something, then he can be tagged out, but otherwise,no, it's insanity.

BTW, why didn't the runner in your example take a turn at first on his clean single to left field?

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Yes, insane.

As long as he immediately returns to first, he cannot be tagged out. If he stops to adjust his junk or something, then he can be tagged out, but otherwise,no, it's insanity.

BTW, why didn't the runner in your example take a turn at first on his clean single to left field?

My partner used that as an example.

J/R page 43 clearly says "A BR cannot be tagged out when overrunning 1B after advancing to such a base on a batted ball, uncaught strike three, or live ball award."

I guess that evidence should convince my partner.

[johnnyg08]

Hmmm...I don't think a B/R has the overrun privilege on a walk...

[Tim C]

According NFHS he CAN overrun . . .

According to Evans in OBR he CANNOT overrun.

Ooop, I guess I have that backwards. Sorry!

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by Tim C

According NFHS he CAN overrun . . .

According to Evans in OBR he CANNOT overrun.

I think you have that reversed.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I think you have that reversed.

NFHS - cannot overrun on a walk.

Evans in the JEA says you can't in OBR but the MLBUM says you can. I'm voting with the MLBUM.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Tim C

According NFHS he CAN overrun . . .

According to Evans in OBR he CANNOT overrun.

Ooop, I guess I have that backwards. Sorry!

Unfortunately, Jim has yet to release his new JEA on CD. When Jim first taught that, it was the ruling opinion of MLB as well. It no longer is, and is no longer taught.

[RPatrino]

Define "over-running". Is the BR simply running past the base, making no attempt to advance to 2b? Or, is he making a wide turn at 1st, locating the ball and looking for the opportunity to advance to 2b if the ball gets past the OF?

Two different situations, two different rulings are possible.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Unfortunately, Jim has yet to release his new JEA on CD. When Jim first taught that, it was the ruling opinion of MLB as well. It no longer is, and is no longer taught.

FWIW, a respected poster on another site reported that Jim was still teaching that, and when the MLBUM rulking was pointed out Jim responded "They're wrong".