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Craig, regardless of where the pitches are, doesn't it seem at least somewhat odd to you that the player that caused a host of problems last game is beaned three times in a row in your game?
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4. Pitchers who hit three (3) batters in one game must be removed from the mound and cannot return to pitch in that game.
Your league president must now decide if the rule is worth adopting or not. I never understood why a hitter would take a HBP off the hand, wrist or elbow. I would simply tell them to raise their arm out of the way. A batter should not be allowed to wear elbow protection. They shouldn't be taught to dig in so close, nor to accept the rewards. Yet, it may be better not to even say anything to the players who can't get out of the way. I enjoy teasing them after the laugh. Last edited by SAump; Fri Jun 15, 2007 at 06:42pm. |
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Adult baseball sucks, current case under discussion is example. They just can't control themselves and the league administration will not either. After 3 years of this I stopped doing adult baseball.
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This is pretty much my first year of umpiring.
Being one of the "rookies" in my association, I don't get the "better" games. Most (approx. 70%) of the games, I work solo. Despite having read the "horror stories" on this (and other) website(s), I started signing up for some MSBL games (25+ & 38 +; 7 so far), primarily because it gave me the opportunity to work 2-man games. So far there have been a couple of "iffy situations" in the games I've done. Not nearly as bad as I had expected. So far. JM
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When I said file charges I meant criminal charges. If you tolerate a player rushing onto the field with a bat that's your business. Hopefully, in the future no official will be hurt because some wanna be has been takes his frustrations out on the official with a bat. Pete Booth
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I understand that is difficult, if not impossible, for some of you who work a different quality of baseball in a different place to believe the HBP's weren't intentional. I knew that coming into the discussion.
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Definately a rule that should be considered for our amateur league. However, in the case under discussion three different pitchers hit the batter.
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The culture here tends to be more animated and what is considered a normal conversation, would be considered an argument or worse in the USA. NOTE: I'm not suggesting that brandishing a baseball bat is a normal part of discourse, even here. However, an interesting contrast between our two worlds is that, to my knowledge, no one at the game considered calling the police to manage this situation. It was an "in house" issue. Clearly, some thought the one game suspension was too light, but they were mainly on the opposing team. Quote:
Not in the incident under discussion nor, to my knowledge, any other time has a baseball umpire in Israel felt physically threatened. Thankfully, that's not our world. Yet. We have other problems, but assualts on umpires hasn't yet become one of them.
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One more for me because I simply do not understand your logic. Here's the question for you. In the heat of the moment if this player was not tackled by someone etc. What were his attentions by bolting onto the field with a bat? What was he going to do with that bat? Obviosuly it was not to hit a baseball. At that moment the players intentions were most likely to cause harm otherwise why rush onto the field with a bat. IMO, that player is lucky at least if this were the US that criminal charges were not pressed. Also, it is a flat out joke to only have a one game suspension for this act. Pete Booth
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All that's left now is to get through the final game tomorrow evening without an incident. I have the plate again and will likely start the game with an official warning.
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Anyone threatening bodily harm with a baseball bat is removed from the game immediately. In most most leagues, he will receive additional penalties. I've never seen it played out as you suggest. As far as "prosecution" goes, that will depend on the wishes of the victim. Bottom line, by any standard, you let too much go in your games.
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I suppose none of you have ever seen an argument in a bar or pool hall in which one patron threatened another patron with a pool cue, but when things were stopped short of an actual physical altercation, everybody walked away without the intervention of the police or the courts. I've seen the same kind of thing at baseball and softball games in the 70's and 80's in Texas and Oklahoma. Apparently, I grew up in a dramatically different environment than some of you. Quote:
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