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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 10:52am
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Why are you trying for two additional outs when the OP already had two outs??
Nope! I said
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F2 should step on the plate then either tag the batter runner or throw to 1st.
. If he does both, he is covered for the out because chances are, most of you out there will not even see F2 touch the plate (seen it happen too many times)! SanDiegoSteve is also correct where F2 could throw anywhere in this situation.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 11:16am
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Nope! I said . If he does both, he is covered for the out because chances are, most of you out there will not even see F2 touch the plate (seen it happen too many times)! SanDiegoSteve is also correct where F2 could throw anywhere in this situation.
Oz, me thinks your grasping at straws on this explanation!!

Any competent umpire will know there is a force at home and call it immediately.

If I was F2, I would stand on the plate then walk up the line towards third base waiting for R3 to attempt to come home and listening for PU to call the out. If I don't here the out call, I would continue to watch R3 but yell out, "Isn't it a foce at home?" Why throw the ball when you don't have to??
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 12:03pm
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For the life of me I can't understand why the debate about such a simple question. Maybe I'm just being grouchy today.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 12:10pm
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The other opinion I have heard is that it is not a force play. I do not go with this opinion. Force play only but have heard otherwise.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 12:11pm
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Logically, how could it NOT be a force play?
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 12:15pm
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Probably they argue that BR is not forced to run. But he better or be called for third out on strikes !!
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 12:19pm
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The fact that a runner doesn't choose to advance doesn't remove the 'force' out situation. You could have a double play turned and every runner be standing still.
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Old Wed Jun 13, 2007, 01:24pm
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The other opinion I have heard is that it is not a force play. I do not go with this opinion. Force play only but have heard otherwise.
Then ask such people what happens if F2 doesn't play on the BR and BR successfully runs to 1B. What now?
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