Sunday Night Baseball

[Welpe]

Thanks Steve, that would do it!

So it seems Sweet Lou was complaining that there weren't any warnings given before the game.

[jimpiano]

Pretty nice interview with Smoltz.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Yeah, they kept trying to get Smoltz to agree with them, but Smoltz thought Lilly was throwing at Renteria on purpose too. Smoltz said that the umpire did what he was supposed to do, and that normally the players would take care of it, but not in this case.

[jimpiano]

SanDiegoSteve says:
Smoltz said that the umpire did what he was supposed to do, and that normally the players would take care of it, but not in this case.


Were you paying attention?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Yes I was. Morgan kept trying to bait Smoltz into saying that Wolf should not have ejected Lilly. Smoltz kept rephrasing his answer to indicate that sometimes the umpires need to step in and do something, and other times the players can take care of it. Morgan wanted Smoltz to throw Wolf under the bus, and to his credit, he did not take the bait.

Now, get back under your bridge please, as you have now asked your allotted 3 questions.

[SanDiegoSteve]

I know, I know. . .

[jimpiano]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Yes I was. Morgan kept trying to bait Smoltz into saying that Wolf should not have ejected Lilly. Smoltz kept rephrasing his answer to indicate that sometimes the umpires need to step in and do something, and other times the players can take care of it. Morgan wanted Smoltz to throw Wolf under the bus, and to his credit, he did not take the bait.

Now, get back under your bridge please, as you have now asked your allotted 3 questions.

LOL

Nothing in that interview could possibly be construed as Morgan baiting anyone.

Prior to and after that interview Morgan said he disagreed with the umpire's ejection.

And Morgan is entitled to his opinion, since he is being paid to offer an opinion.

If you cannot stand disagreement with calls by umpires then you should not be an umpire.



And the ejection was based solely on judgement by the umpire.

The umpire's opnion is the final word.....but it is not the only one.

That is why we have announcers.

[kylejt]

Did anyone else, beside my son and I, hear what Renteria said to the PU after he was hit.

"I told you, I told you"

He told the PU he was going to get doinked. THAT'S why the pitcher was run. And THAT'S why Lou didn't go nuts.

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[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Yeah, they kept trying to get Smoltz to agree with them, but Smoltz thought Lilly was throwing at Renteria on purpose too. Smoltz said that the umpire did what he was supposed to do, and that normally the players would take care of it, but not in this case.

Steve,

You and I both know that Smoltz would rather have the umps stay out of this.
When asked if he'd ever been thrown out of a game under similar circumstances he told his story of a few years ago.
I'm sure you heard it.
He basically said if the umps would have stayed out of it the matter was settled, instead they inserted themselves and according to Smoltz things got much worse.
You know that Smoltz is smart enough not to directly criticize this crew or Wolf for the matter at hand and peeve them off, for obvious reasons.
He certainly made it perfectly clear where he stood on this matter.
I know you're perceptive enough to have caught his veiled criticism.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Don Mueller

Steve,

You and I both know that Smoltz would rather have the umps stay out of this.
When asked if he'd ever been thrown out of a game under similar circumstances he told his story of a few years ago.
I'm sure you heard it.
He basically said if the umps would have stayed out of it the matter was settled, instead they inserted themselves and according to Smoltz things got much worse.
You know that Smoltz is smart enough not to directly criticize this crew or Wolf for the matter at hand and peeve them off, for obvious reasons.
He certainly made it perfectly clear where he stood on this matter.
I know you're perceptive enough to have caught his veiled criticism.

Smoltz indicated that the umpires should have stayed out of his situation. He also said that every situation is different, and he inferred that he felt Lilly deserved what he got, but that he himself did not deserve what happened in the late 90s. I'll bet if we ask Renteria, he would say that Lilly deserved to get run, as it was definitely premeditated.

[gsf23]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Smoltz indicated that the umpires should have stayed out of his situation. He also said that every situation is different, and he inferred that he felt Lilly deserved what he got, but that he himself did not deserve what happened in the late 90s. I'll bet if we ask Renteria, he would say that Lilly deserved to get run, as it was definitely premeditated.

As was Hudson's pitch at Soriano's head on Saturday.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by gsf23

As was Hudson's pitch at Soriano's head on Saturday.

Probably it was. But it was a different umpire working the plate, not Jim Wolf. If Tim Tscheda did not rule it to be intentional, that doesn't be-front Wolf none at all (a little George Thorogood lingo there). It is, and always has been, a judgment call.