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Old Tue Jun 05, 2007, 12:20pm
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Possession

I had a second baseman come across the bag and await the throw from the shortstop. While on the bag, the ball deflected off of his glove and lodged between his arm and his side. The ball was not moving and was pinned against his side. Does this constitute possession or does he have to have the ball in his glove or bare hand? There was no controversy, because he calmly grabbed the ball with his bare hand in plenty of time.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2007, 12:52pm
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This is not possession.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2007, 01:10pm
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This is not possession.
What constitutes possession, in this case?

Is it considered possession if the player has the ball pinned or trapped to his body with his glove or bare hand?

Thanks for the help! I've never seen this before and want to make sure I get it correct!
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2007, 01:14pm
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What constitutes possession, in this case?

Is it considered possession if the player has the ball pinned or trapped to his body with his glove or bare hand?

Thanks for the help! I've never seen this before and want to make sure I get it correct!
It needs to be grasped by the hand / glove. It can also be touching the body, of course, but cannot just be "pinned"
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2007, 01:38pm
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Yep...you'll probably see this most often at 1B in an attempted scoop...but of course you saw it at 2B also...
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2007, 02:23pm
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The question is easy to answer

Does he have possession of the ball?

Can he throw it, or switch it to his hand to throw it without doing anything else?

There's your answer.
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Old Tue Jun 05, 2007, 07:55pm
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I had a second baseman come across the bag and await the throw from the shortstop. While on the bag, the ball deflected off of his glove and lodged between his arm and his side. The ball was not moving and was pinned against his side. Does this constitute possession or does he have to have the ball in his glove or bare hand? There was no controversy, because he calmly grabbed the ball with his bare hand in plenty of time.
Hmmmmmm! A ball lodged between the player's arm and side would be concidered possession in football! How's that?
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 08:01am
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Hmmmmmm! A ball lodged between the player's arm and side would be concidered possession in football! How's that?
No it wouldn't. It's nothing. If it fell from that position, it would not be a catch.
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 08:35am
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Good one Steve, that gave me a good laugh!
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 09:01am
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No it wouldn't. It's nothing. If it fell from that position, it would not be a catch.
I'll bet if he ran into the end zone, it would be a TD!
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Old Wed Jun 06, 2007, 09:23am
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I'll bet if he ran into the end zone, it would be a TD!
And if it was called that way in an NCAA or NFL game, it would be overturned. If it was called that way in a filmed high school game, the referee would likely be reprimanded. No-possession (yet, at least) on this would truly be a simple call in any level of football. Take away the sidelines in football and the walls in baseball, and the requirements for possession in football are nearly identical.
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