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Old Fri Oct 29, 2004, 11:34am
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Alternating pos always throws we.

Here is a sample question I got from the following website: http://www.psboa.org

A-1 commits a throw-in violation durning alternating pos procedure. Offical awards ball to team B and has the scorer turn the arrow toward team B's basket. Is the official correct?

Answer: Yes

Question i have is during alternating pos procedure, when do you instruct the scorer to switch arrow...

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Old Fri Oct 29, 2004, 11:37am
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when throw in ends!!!!

it ended with a violation on team A...switch arrow give team B the ball...
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Old Sat Oct 30, 2004, 10:09pm
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Wrong

For alternating posession, it is when the throw in ends. So in this case. If A was inbounding the ball because of an alternating posession and commited a violatin, B gets the ball, but the arrow still points to A. The violation includes throwing the ball out of bounds without touching someone.

This is different for the start of a game which is not alternating posession. For example, if during the initial jump ball, team B commits a violation, team will get the ball and the arrow is set to team B when the ball is at the throwers disposal. If then, A commits a throw in violation, B gets the ball, but still will have the arrow.
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Old Sat Oct 30, 2004, 10:17pm
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Re: Wrong

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Originally posted by Damian
For alternating posession, it is when the throw in ends. So in this case. If A was inbounding the ball because of an alternating posession and commited a violatin, B gets the ball, but the arrow still points to A. The violation includes throwing the ball out of bounds without touching someone.

This is different for the start of a game which is not alternating posession. For example, if during the initial jump ball, team B commits a violation, team will get the ball and the arrow is set to team B when the ball is at the throwers disposal. If then, A commits a throw in violation, B gets the ball, but still will have the arrow.

Damian:

You are wrong. I do not have my rule books in front of me but both NFHS and NCAA rules agree that one of the ways a throw-in ends is when the team attepting the throw-in commits a throw-in violation. Therefore in the play of the original post is that when Team A commited the throw-in violation, the AP Arrow is reversed toward Team B's basket, Team B receives the ball for a throw-in as the penalty for Team A's throw-in violation, and Team B will get the ball for a throw-in for the next AP situation.

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Re: Re: Wrong

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
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Originally posted by Damian
For alternating posession, it is when the throw in ends. So in this case. If A was inbounding the ball because of an alternating posession and commited a violatin, B gets the ball, but the arrow still points to A. The violation includes throwing the ball out of bounds without touching someone.

You are wrong. I do not have my rule books in front of me but both NFHS and NCAA rules agree that one of the ways a throw-in ends is when the team attepting the throw-in commits a throw-in violation. Therefore in the play of the original post is that when Team A commited the throw-in violation, the AP Arrow is reversed toward Team B's basket, Team B receives the ball for a throw-in as the penalty for Team A's throw-in violation, and Team B will get the ball for a throw-in for the next AP situation.

NFHS rule 6-4-4&5 is the rule citation that backs MTD Sr.
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Old Sun Oct 31, 2004, 10:37am
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For alternating posession, it is when the throw in ends. So in this case. If A was inbounding the ball because of an alternating posession and commited a violatin, B gets the ball, but the arrow still points to A. The violation includes throwing the ball out of bounds without touching someone.

You are wrong. I do not have my rule books in front of me but both NFHS and NCAA rules agree that one of the ways a throw-in ends is when the team attepting the throw-in commits a throw-in violation. Therefore in the play of the original post is that when Team A commited the throw-in violation, the AP Arrow is reversed toward Team B's basket, Team B receives the ball for a throw-in as the penalty for Team A's throw-in violation, and Team B will get the ball for a throw-in for the next AP situation.

NFHS rule 6-4-4&5 is the rule citation that backs MTD Sr.

Good morning and Happy Halloween. Thanks for the backing up tired old man, LOL, last night. The family and I had just got back home from Youngstown, Ohio, where we watched the Youngstown State University Penquins defeat the Indiana State University Sycamores 45-20, to break four game losing streak. Now, to go watch the eleven year old and his light weigh football team play their final game of the season.

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