Ejection Fiasco - Need Comments

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

I really don't care anymore if you guys respect me or not. Many members of both this board and the Amateur Baseball *******s Association decided to treat me like garbage for no reason whatsoever. If you guys are going to treat me like a joke, I'm going to treat you like a joke in response. I think a big part of my being disrespected is the whole ageism thing that older umpires have going on. They believe that because they've been in the game for so many more years than some of the newer umps they are entitled to bad-mouth them. But trust me when I say that these people are usually the ones who talk a big game but cannot call a ballgame nearly as well as they claim they can.

Oh and by the way Ozzy, I emailed the link of that conversation of ABUA that we recently had to my assignor. He had some not so positive things to say about you.

We don't badmouth you for your age, or experience level. We badmouth you when you say stupid things, especially things like criticizing or ridiculing a stance which is picture perfect, or suggesting things like "Ejections are judgement calls, and you can take them back." Learn FIRST, Ask questions ... then you'll know when you have enough background to criticize or suggest something ... and you will know what not to criticize or suggest.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

I just got back from a game. Got creamed in the mop up inning I pitched.

Co-Ed 3-pitch?








Sorry, I couldn't help it. The devil made me do it!

[Welpe]

You're a better man than me, Steve. I was thinking machine pitch myself.

[LMan]

The sad part is, any newcomer asking for honest, decent umpiring advice has to suffer and slop through X number of his troll-posts before they figure out that his true home is on the ignore list.

It can only be hoped that the damage caused before that point is not irreversible.

[Rcichon]

A little like life, isn't it?

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Rcichon

A little like life, isn't it?

True. One can't save them all

[canadaump6]

I'm going to be leaving this forum for a while. It'll be at least a couple weeks, one month maximum. I think it's time I left as I need to get my post count down below 1 post per day, and I made a not-so-smart comment about TimC's Jerry Davis stance which I would have been better off not saying. I said what I did because he was harassing another poster, so I mentioned to him that TimC gives myself and other posters problems as well. Then I mentioned that he didn't know how to do the stance, which turned out to be wrong on my part. I was trying to be helpful to a new poster, and it ended up with me getting jumped by at least 5 umps on here, so frankly I'm fed up and you won't be seeing me for 2 to 4 weeks. After that I'll come back, if things don't go well I may go for longer.

[sri8527]

i am at a loss, you mean that canadaump6 has been wrong, what am i to do, everything he has taught me, his vast knowledge on everything and anything. i may turn the games i have back until his return, how can i function properly without his expert guidance. can someone, anyone fill this huge void?

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

I'm going to be leaving this forum for a while. It'll be at least a couple weeks, one month maximum. I think it's time I left as I need to get my post count down below 1 post per day, and I made a not-so-smart comment about TimC's Jerry Davis stance which I would have been better off not saying. I said what I did because he was harassing another poster, so I mentioned to him that TimC gives myself and other posters problems as well. Then I mentioned that he didn't know how to do the stance, which turned out to be wrong on my part. I was trying to be helpful to a new poster, and it ended up with me getting jumped by at least 5 umps on here, so frankly I'm fed up and you won't be seeing me for 2 to 4 weeks. After that I'll come back, if things don't go well I may go for longer.

While you're gone, read a rulebook, grow up a little and maybe things will be different. And it's Gerry Davis, not Jerry Davis - try to get it straight!

[jontheref]

Wow! In a word. Here is my take.

The awarding of bases on the pickoff has got to be yours and only your call.
Your read is the feet. The PU is the hands therefore its your call. Get together tell him what you saw and that it will stand.

The DP at second...I would be inclined to call him out on the front end of any DP unless the SS or 2nd baseman is taking a throw like a firstbasemen.

The last incident...I can only ask where the hell your partner was. Once a coach touches me, he is gone. I don't care. Once he has made his point in a short period of time, the response is--coach I heard you...the call stands.
Your partner has got to come in---step in between you and say we are done.

As for the line that "you are ruining his career" --Self imposed hardship is not a hardship. If the guy acts like a jerk--what ever you respond with ---he earned. Previous responders got it right...once you eject someone thats it. Thats why you need to get with your partner and discuss what happened and be sure thats what you want to do. In my game...thrown bats and equipment and performances earn you an early shower.

If the federation is eager to insure than sportsmanship of the game then we enforce it even when coaches can't figure out why.

[Cub42]

Once someone is tossed, there is no turning back. You said this was a HS Varsity game. In Florida and NJ, when you dump someone, you call the assignor immediately following the game, then compose your report. Failure to do this will result in your Organization and yourself being fined. Not to mention the damage it does to your reputation. Finaly remember this important quote: " Umpires don't eject players or Managers. Players and Managers eject themselves." Be Fair, yet Firm. Your in charge, Be in charge.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by sri8527

i am at a loss, you mean that canadaump6 has been wrong, what am i to do, everything he has taught me, his vast knowledge on everything and anything. i may turn the games i have back until his return, how can i function properly without his expert guidance. can someone, anyone fill this huge void?

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by canadaump6

I'm going to be leaving this forum for a while. It'll be at least a couple weeks, one month maximum. I think it's time I left as I need to get my post count down below 1 post per day, and I made a not-so-smart comment about TimC's Jerry Davis stance which I would have been better off not saying. I said what I did because he was harassing another poster, so I mentioned to him that TimC gives myself and other posters problems as well. Then I mentioned that he didn't know how to do the stance, which turned out to be wrong on my part. I was trying to be helpful to a new poster, and it ended up with me getting jumped by at least 5 umps on here, so frankly I'm fed up and you won't be seeing me for 2 to 4 weeks. After that I'll come back, if things don't go well I may go for longer.

Use your time wisely. And when you come back, when "trying to be helpful to a new poster", try to be RIGHT first, and make sure you're right. There's nothing worse than seeing a newcomer's post get answered incorrectly 3 times quickly before someone can answer correctly ... and then wondering if that new poster came on, got his (incorrect) answer, and went away ... then using the wrong answer on the field, and quoting "I checked it at officiating dot com, so I know I'm right".

The sad thing here is that you seem to think we'll all be upset by your absence, and threaten us with more absence if we don't behave next time. Truly scary.

[jkumpire]

Can someone send a url for the Warning poster?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

Can someone send a url for the Warning poster?

Just go to Google, select Images, then type in the word sarcasm. You will get many funny sarcasm items. Click on one then view it in full size. Save it to your My Pictures file. Then go to an image hosting website such as imageshack.us or other hosting site. Then upload your image by clicking on "Browse." Us the direct URL with [img] and [/Img] on the ends of the URL.

Voila.

Quote my post of the picture for an example.