Stealing Home

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by TussAgee11

What if in OBR

we rule balk...

the ball hits the runner sliding in?

???

Then you enforce the balk.

Tim.

[johnnyg08]

Last I checked, while home plate is an unoccupied base, one can't safely occupy home plate. I guess a person could argue that a runner can temporarily for the purposes of touching home plate, temporarily occupy home plate...but I agree w/ other posters that a the unoccupied base rule doesn't apply here.

My follow up question for the board is what determines the balk in this sitch...let's assume FED/OBR in the stretch? FED/OBR Windup? Same sitch...two different pitcher positions. I'd love to see some demos of this exact sitch in a video...we see this quite often...the pitcher goes from the wind and R3 steals home...what constitutes a balk, what is a legal move?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Last I checked, while home plate is an unoccupied base, one can't safely occupy home plate. I guess a person could argue that a runner can temporarily for the purposes of touching home plate, temporarily occupy home plate...but I agree w/ other posters that a the unoccupied base rule doesn't apply here.

My follow up question for the board is what determines the balk in this sitch...let's assume FED/OBR in the stretch? FED/OBR Windup? Same sitch...two different pitcher positions. I'd love to see some demos of this exact sitch in a video...we see this quite often...the pitcher goes from the wind and R3 steals home...what constitutes a balk, what is a legal move?

Pretty much the same things that would be a balk to other bases -- failing to come set (if from the set), failing to step, hesitation, etc.

[johnnyg08]

but the pitcher can legally speed up his motion right?? from the windup...once the pitcher has started his motion is there anything that would constitute a balk??

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

but the pitcher can legally speed up his motion right?? from the windup...once the pitcher has started his motion is there anything that would constitute a balk??

Yea, if he throws to a base, drops the ball, or stops his motion with runners on base.


Tim.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Yea, if he throws to a base, drops the ball, or stops his motion with runners on base.


Tim.

I'm assuming that "throwing" to home and "pitching" to home in this sitch are two implied differences??

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

I'm assuming that "throwing" to home and "pitching" to home in this sitch are two implied differences??

The only way a pitcher can throw the ball home is to legally disengage first. Otherwise it's a pitch.


Tim.