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Old Sun May 06, 2007, 11:14am
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It sounds like the offense got a break, so it would be the defensive manager who would have a protest.
Right you are Bob.
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Old Sun May 06, 2007, 12:39pm
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Shouldn't this have been called 'umpire obstruction', and how is it scored?
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Old Sun May 06, 2007, 04:17pm
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its not called anything really. IIRC there are only 2 specific instances of 'umpire INT' in the rules, and this is not one of them.

Forest, you should have expected this reaction when you bring a Eteamz topic to this board
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Old Mon May 07, 2007, 04:32pm
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Shouldn't this have been called 'umpire obstruction', and how is it scored?
Sorry...I'm not on this board to judge the good questions and bad questions...I simply answered how the play would be scored...don't bite my head off....
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Old Mon May 07, 2007, 04:37pm
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Sorry...I'm not on this board to judge the good questions and bad questions...I simply answered how the play would be scored...don't bite my head off....
Most of us recognized the question as facetious. No sweat, you didn't know. For umpires, the rule book only goes from 1-9.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 11:30am
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In a related point; I had a game last nite where the Coach thought it was ok warm up the pitcher.

After advising him that it was not ok to do this, he replied, "the last Umpire we had told us to get out there and get the pitcher warmed up, we have a game to get underway [words to that effect]".

This Umpire also advised him that balks would be enforced, no warnings.

This was LL Majors.

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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 12:26pm
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This Umpire also advised him that balks would be enforced, no warnings.
And in a varsity FED game last night, I called a balk on a pitcher who stepped off with the wrong foot. The response I got was "What? Don't we get our warning first?"

How does one "balk" in LL majors anyway? I thought the runners could not leave till the ball crosses the plate? I don't do that level of ball, so this is a serious question.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 08:21pm
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How does one "balk" in LL majors anyway? I thought the runners could not leave till the ball crosses the plate? I don't do that level of ball, so this is a serious question.
There aren't any balks at that level, just illegal pitches. There used to be balks but LL took them out of the LL rules, which I think was a good move.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 02:24am
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There aren't any balks at that level, just illegal pitches. There used to be balks but LL took them out of the LL rules, which I think was a good move.
When did Little League majors have balks? It must have been before 1968 when I played, because they sure didn't call balks then. I have been umpiring since 1986 and know of no such balk rules, only illegal pitches. What was considered a balk, since no lead-offs have ever been allowed at that level? I mean, just who is the pitcher trying to illegally deceive?
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 02:48am
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When did Little League majors have balks? It must have been before 1968 when I played, because they sure didn't call balks then. I have been umpiring since 1986 and know of no such balk rules, only illegal pitches. What was considered a balk, since no lead-offs have ever been allowed at that level? I mean, just who is the pitcher trying to illegally deceive?
When I was playing Little League in the early 90's there were balks called and when I started umpiring in '97 (at the tender age of 13), balks were in the rule book. I remember one game where my partner and I called a combined 4 balks against one pitcher over the span of a couple of innings. If I remember, it was for the pitcher failing to pause while pitching from the set with runners on base. That was a crappy game and I learned a couple of good lessons there.

I remember a few years later when they changed the rules (I want to say that was '99 or 2000) because it was a big deal during our pre-season umpire meetings.

That said, you're right, there is no point in having the balk rule at Majors or below and I'm glad they did away with it.
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