Umpire Interference

[Forest Ump]

Garth..Some people can see humor in these situations... obviously you have no sense of humor. Go to bed. It’s late.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

Garth..Some people can see humor in these situations... obviously you have no sense of humor. Go to bed. It’s late.

Sorry, I've had to clean up messes left by umpires who thought it was humorous to make up rules.

Have another drink and maybe you'll think that's funny, too.

[orangeump]

holy God, settle down.

it's a 9 year old baseball game using ONE UMPIRE.

guy is trying to run all over and make calls at about three bases at once it seems like and knocked some kid over or whatever happened.

who cares? I dont think this is severly going to effect the entire baseball playing careers of these kids, do you?

settle down for ten seconds and realize that this probably will NEVER EVEN HAPPEN AGAIN. If it happens in your game and you have to eject a manager over it, then I ask you to find this guy and yell at him, because obviously he caused the whole mess in your life.

good luck and please for the love of all that is holy, chill out.

[DonInKansas]

Originally Posted by orangeump

it's a 9 year old baseball game using ONE UMPIRE.

guy is trying to run all over and make calls at about three bases at once it seems like and knocked some kid over or whatever happened.

who cares? I dont think this is severly going to effect the entire baseball playing careers of these kids, do you?


Yes, it will affect them, because they will not have correct knowledge of the RULES. They care--They are out there trying to do their best and expect the same from the umpire.

Hey, by the way, are the hands a part of the bat as well?

This may be funny to a drunken poser who's just collecting a check for putting on a blue shirt or a casual fan, but bring this to an actual umpire board where we take our role on the field seriously and you should expect this kind of reaction.

You are out there to apply the rules correctly, not make stuff up to make the coaches happy.

I'm still trying to figure out how he got run over by a runner coming home from third after making a call at first. How are you anywhere near the 3B line? But then again, it's all just funny......

[njdevs00cup]

You are out there to apply the rules correctly, not make stuff up to make the coaches happy.

I'm still trying to figure out how he got run over by a runner coming home from third after making a call at first. How are you anywhere near the 3B line? But then again, it's all just funny......[/QUOTE]


You're exactly correct! When towns start paying for two umpires, the calls will be made correctly, in the correct position. A one man show is instinctive umpiring. There are few mechanics, other than anticipate where the play should go. With nine year old rec. ball, where you anticipate is not always where the ball ends up.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by DonInKansas

I'm still trying to figure out how he got run over by a runner coming home from third after making a call at first. How are you anywhere near the 3B line?

Because in one-man mechanics, you don't go into fair territory when there are runners in scoring position on batted balls until all runners except the BR have scored. The proper mechanic on this ground ball to the infield is to move in foul territory toward third away from the foul line a bit, so stupid old R3 doesn't run into the umpire and start crying. You get an angle for the play at first, while watching R3 touch home plate. You never go into the infield and turn your back to the lead runner.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by orangeump

holy God, settle down.

it's a 9 year old baseball game using ONE UMPIRE.

guy is trying to run all over and make calls at about three bases at once it seems like and knocked some kid over or whatever happened.

who cares? I dont think this is severly going to effect the entire baseball playing careers of these kids, do you?

This is the instructional level. This is where players and coaches learn the rules. This is where "hands are part of the bat", "home plate is foul", "pitches that hit the dirt are dead" and a runner bumping an umpire is umpire interference are all learned.

Now, I admit a guy "trying to run all over and make calls at about three bases at once" and getting run over by a nine year old is funny. We can discuss appropriate one man mechanics if you'd like. But walking away from a game in which you just imbedded a rule myth is not humorous. Not at any level.

[lawump]

Originally Posted by orangeump

settle down for ten seconds and realize that this probably will NEVER EVEN HAPPEN AGAIN.

Actually, this happened in a late season, nationally televised NCAA Division 1 game last year...that we discussed in-depth on this board and other umpire boards.

While the umpire (in the NCAA game) screwed up in being where he was...the crew got it right and ruled it was not umpire's interference. They had to issue a lot of apologies...but a rule is a rule.

We're paid to get the rules right. And, frankly, I hate cleaning up other umpires' messes, too...on any level.

[tcarilli]

Originally Posted by Forest Ump

Garth...obviously you have no sense of humor. Go to bed. It’s late.

How does this follow from what Garth said. This is how flame wars get started. Just because Garth or anyone for that matter, doesn't agree with you (get your joke) doesn't therefore imply that he has no sense of humor.

While your intentions on this play were good. You violated the rules in an effort to fix a messy situation. None of the post to that point were ad hominem; they were all strictly based on your misapplication of the rules.

[justanotherblue]

I'll add my pennies worth as to how this can hurt. U15 game, I have the dish, my partner nearing 75 or more, can't move, R1, R2, gets hit with a line drive while in C. As I'm yelling time, umpire interference both runners come across the plate. As the dust settles and we check my partner to make sure he's still breathing, I replace the runners on base. The offensive coach is screaming because he lost two runs, saying...umpires are part of the field and his runs count. Doesn't matter, well, yeah it does! Better yet, had three games that day with him. He got hit the next game also! Same results.