Two different plays

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by harmbu

The following two plays happened in my last two games. FED rules:

Play 1--R1 & R3 one out. Batter hits a sharp ground ball to F6 who immediately flips to F4 for the force out. As F4 turns to throw to first, R1 (who is already out) is about 20 feet from the base still running. F4 alters his throw to keep from hitting R1 and throws the ball away. Do we have anything on this play?

I don't. The runner hasn't had a chance to act on his change in status. Even if he had, I would be hard pressed to judge interference on a retired runner who continued to second without changing his path. That would seem to me to be the action least likely to interfere with the throw.

Play 2--R1 & R2. Ground ball to F6. R2 stays on second for some reason. F6 tags R2 first, steps on second and throws late to first base. B1 after legally overruning first base turns and heads toward the first base dugout. At this point F3 retrieves the ball and steps on first base. Just before entering the dugout, B1 attempts to come back to first base. Before he can get there, a confused BU has called time out.

Any rule references on either play would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

BR is definately safe since he was not put out before time was called. The real question is was BR at risk of being put out. If BR had not yet retouch 1B after overrunning it, I think he is safe from being put out by virtue of the over-running even though he has mistakenly headed for the dugout. If he has retouched 1B, he is in danger of being put out the same as any runner wandering off a base.