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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 01:50pm
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Talking Double call on one player

FED HS JV bottom 3rd inning 2 outs R3 on 2nd I am BU in a two-man game, I am in the “C”: The field is slights damp from the rain and the infield is brick dust.

B4 hit a hard grounder to F5 who charges and misses the ball. F5 turns and takes a step after the ball as R3 swerves around him. I call “OBSTRUCTION”, and F5 stops.

R3 swerves back in and grabs F5 preventing F5 from going after the ball. I call “TIME, THE RUNNER IS OUT FOR INTERFERENCE”.

The ball stops about 30 feet in the outfield and B4 ends up on 2nd base as the 3rd base coach starts screaming at R3 for grabbing F5.

I discussed this with some of my fellow umpires in my local assoc and none of them had ever seen anything like it.

Any comment?
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 02:18pm
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FED HS JV bottom 3rd inning 2 outs R3 on 2nd I am BU in a two-man game, I am in the “C”: The field is slights damp from the rain and the infield is brick dust.

B4 hit a hard grounder to F5 who charges and misses the ball. F5 turns and takes a step after the ball as R3 swerves around him. I call “OBSTRUCTION”, and F5 stops.

R3 swerves back in and grabs F5 preventing F5 from going after the ball. I call “TIME, THE RUNNER IS OUT FOR INTERFERENCE”.

The ball stops about 30 feet in the outfield and B4 ends up on 2nd base as the 3rd base coach starts screaming at R3 for grabbing F5.

I discussed this with some of my fellow umpires in my local assoc and none of them had ever seen anything like it.

Any comment?
Maybe a HTBT. Did the fielder make contact with the runner on second? If not, I'm having a difficult time with the OBS call

The runner "grabbing" the fielder would get the INT call.
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 04:25pm
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When F5 turned, he stepped into the path of R4, causing R4 to swerve. Sorry I see where I did not state that very well.
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 05:07pm
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Sorry I see where I did not state that very well.
No, but you did give a wonderful description of the field conditions......
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 06:16pm
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FED HS JV bottom 3rd inning 2 outs R3 on 2nd I am BU in a two-man game, I am in the “C”: The field is slights damp from the rain and the infield is brick dust.

B4 hit a hard grounder to F5 who charges and misses the ball. F5 turns and takes a step after the ball as R3 swerves around him. I call “OBSTRUCTION”, and F5 stops.

R3 swerves back in and grabs F5 preventing F5 from going after the ball. I call “TIME, THE RUNNER IS OUT FOR INTERFERENCE”.

The ball stops about 30 feet in the outfield and B4 ends up on 2nd base as the 3rd base coach starts screaming at R3 for grabbing F5.

I discussed this with some of my fellow umpires in my local assoc and none of them had ever seen anything like it.

Any comment?
I think that I understand what you are trying to say, although I've never seen it. Anyway, in FED, Interference overrides obstruction. For example, runner rounding 3rd gets obstructed by F5. Runner continues to home and runner tries to rip the ball out of F2's hand. The interference trumps the obstruction on the runner.
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Old Sun Apr 29, 2007, 07:43pm
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The interference definitely override the obstruction. Enforce the interference penalty, send the B-R back to 1st if he did not absolutely have 2nd achieved at the time of interference.
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