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Did anyone see Chauncey Billups' fake double dribble at the end of last night's Pistons-Pacers game (player passes off hand over dribbling hand without touching ball - looks like he's picking the dribble up)? He did it so well, the player in front of him jumped up to block the pass, and the referee behind him actually called a double dribble.
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Let's say he did double dribble (thanks Rick) ...
I wonder if the ref would call it if the defender didn't fall for the fake? No disadvantage, right? Is that why NBA refs make the big bucks? [Edited by lrpalmer3 on May 25th, 2004 at 03:22 PM]
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No double dribble there! ESPN actually had a great second camera angle that clearly showed there was NO violation. That ref made a terrible call due to being out of position.
Now what I would like to know is could this have been a correctable error and if one of the other refs had the guts to confer with his partner could the call been rescinded (I realize that it probably would never happen but is it even feasible to consider as an option?)???
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"correctable error" seems like the wrong term. Maybe just an overturned call.
Another official once incorrectly called a double dribble in my primary. After all 10 players, the bench personnel, the scorer, the fans, and even the bball looked at him funny, guess what he did? He asked me (from all the way across the court) if it was a double dribble. Suggestions? Then I'll tell you what I did (which by no means is the "correct" way).
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Yeah, they can correct that. Also when your partner goes and calls a foul that was perfectly clean... go tell him he missed that and call it an inadvertant whistle!
These guys (NBA refs) get so much grief over one call, and a violation at that, that it makes ESPN. Not one of us would do any better and we are picking on him and suggesting his partners come over and tell him he is wrong. Seriously! These guys are the best trained officials in the country and we think they should overturn a violation call. I agree with Snaq... GOOD GRIEF! [Edited by dhodges007 on May 25th, 2004 at 04:18 PM]
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I thought it was a good example of why you should not make a call if you are not in position and do not see it clearly. I was pretty suprised that he called it due to the traveling violations that happen every other play in the NBA. That being said this is an NBA Official that is working a Conference Final so let me finish by saying that the official that was there for Prince's block was in perfect position and made a great no-call. The commentators had one thing right, they kept saying "This is a very hard game to officiate" I will second that notion! |
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I agree with you dhodges007 that these are some of the best officials in the world and not one of us could hold their jock-strap or the female version (help me out Juulie ). But I do try and learn from situations that occur in these games, not by seeing how things are handled with NBA rules but by thinking about how I would handle it using NFHS rules. I thought this was a good learning example of why you should only call it if you see it, no matter how much the home fans or couch-potatoes don't like the no call.
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