Infield Fly Rule - Ball Drops

[ballingbob]

Thanks Two Bits, I just noticed it and read it and thought I'd get reamed out like that guy did for not going to the book first. I was just reading through some of the posts and thought I'd post this one. These are very informative.

[UMP25]

Also, remember that the Intentional Drop rule is moot in Infield Fly situations. This is because the Infield Fly Rule takes precedence; that is, IT is invoked first, rendering the Intentional Drop moot. Of course, there's an exception to this exception: the Intentional Drop can still be invoked with runners on first and second or bases loaded if an infielder intentionally drops a line drive or bunted ball, because the Infield Fly isn't declared in such situations.

Confusing enough?

[johnnyg08]

Been a crazy year for me so far...had some calls I've never had before...
1. Intentional Drop
2. Batter out of batters box (bunt attempt w/ one foot out of the box just above the apex of home plate) never thought I'd call it, but it was so obvious, I had to call it last night. He even got away w/ it the first attempt because I wasn't 100% the 1st time.

I'm sure there will be more weird stuff this season.

Note: Umpires...please never, never call an infield fly on a bunt attempt!

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Been a crazy year for me so far...had some calls I've never had before...
1. Intentional Drop
2. Batter out of batters box (bunt attempt w/ one foot out of the box just above the apex of home plate) never thought I'd call it, but it was so obvious, I had to call it last night. He even got away w/ it the first attempt because I wasn't 100% the 1st time.

I'm sure there will be more weird stuff this season.

Note: Umpires...please never, never call an infield fly on a bunt attempt!

There's nothing wrong here...unless the foot was touching the ground outside the box or the plate... he should have "gotten away" with it the second time also

[johnnyg08]

He "squared around," planting his right foot, outside of the box.

[griff901c]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

He "squared around," planting his right foot, outside of the box.

And then what?......Make contact with the ball?.......

Try this...right after your meeting at the plate....GET RID OF THE INSIDE LINES...now what do you do?

Let'm play ball.....

griff

[Thom Coste]

Originally Posted by griff901c

And then what?......Make contact with the ball?.......

Try this...right after your meeting at the plate....GET RID OF THE INSIDE LINES...now what do you do?

Let'm play ball.....

griff

Sometimes you don't know where the batter's box is, but you do know where it isn't.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Been a crazy year for me so far...had some calls I've never had before...
1. Intentional Drop
2. Batter out of batters box (bunt attempt w/ one foot out of the box just above the apex of home plate) never thought I'd call it, but it was so obvious, I had to call it last night. He even got away w/ it the first attempt because I wasn't 100% the 1st time.

I'm sure there will be more weird stuff this season.

Note: Umpires...please never, never call an infield fly on a bunt attempt!

I finally saw a batter make contact with the ball while he had a foot, on the ground, completely out of the box. Problem was...I was the BU.

His team is a good bet to move on to state this year so I had a word with the assistant coach at first and suggested that they might run into a plate ump along the way who was more concerned with feet than the pitch. He thanked me for the heads-up. Next time the kid came up, he had moved back in the box about a foot.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I finally saw a batter make contact with the ball while he had a foot, on the ground, completely out of the box. Problem was...I was the BU.

His team is a good bet to move on to state this year so I had a word with the assistant coach at first and suggested that they might run into a plate ump along the way who was more concerned with feet than the pitch. He thanked me for the heads-up. Next time the kid came up, he had moved back in the box about a foot.

Now that's just good preventive umpiring and a coach smart enough to listen.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

and a coach smart enough to listen.

nahhh. He was the assistant coach. I figured the head coach must have over heard us.

[njdevs00cup]

[QUOTE=johnnyg08]Been a crazy year for me so far...had some calls I've never had before...
1. Intentional Drop
2. Batter out of batters box (bunt attempt w/ one foot out of the box just above the apex of home plate) never thought I'd call it, but it was so obvious, I had to call it last night. He even got away w/ it the first attempt because I wasn't 100% the 1st time.

I'm sure there will be more weird stuff this season.

Note: Umpires...please never, never call an infield fly on a bunt attempt![/QUOTE

I had an interesting one last night too. A batter missed first base and the ball was thrown into deadball territory. I award the batter second base (he still does not touch first base). The coach was yelling to initiate an appeal when the ball was live. I put the ball back in play, and the right handed pitcher asks for an appeal and throws over without stepping off the rubber.

[UMP25]

Why is the appeal nullified? It's perfectly legal. If you're posting because the ball was thrown out of play, it sounds like that occurred during continuous action. The ball is made live again, then the appeal is allowed. If you're posting that it's nullified because the pitcher threw from the rubber, that's also legal because he's making an appeal.