Anyone know who's now publishing Official Baseball Rules?

[PeteBooth]

Go to this link

or you can still purchase the 2006 Books from Sporting News get your 50% discount and simply print out the 2007 changes on line and hand them out. There really is not that drastic of a change.

http://www.amazon.com/Official-Rules...4929651&sr=8-1

[UMP25]

Too much of a hassle, believe me. Everyone wants everything neatly compacted into one, little publication.

[johnnyg08]

Then don't complain about $10 for a book...bought a book lately? $10 is cheap!

[UMP25]

Apples and oranges. I buy hardcover books all the time, as I'm an avid reader; but OBR books at $10 each? Ridiculous.

[johnnyg08]

if cost is an issue...any umpire who cares slightly more than zero will have or should be able to access the pro rule book online for the cost of 5 minutes at a public library, their home computer, or wherever...for guys who are often earning upwards of $70 - $100+ per game that they work to hem and haw about a $10 or less expense that teaches you the updates on how to do your job correctly (from a rules standpoint) is just plain miserly. cough up the $10 or find a buddy to give you his old rule book...one that's a year old is better than nothing...

[UMP25]

It's obvious you don't understand the first thing about assigning for a bunch of individuals who simply will not do what you propose. (A) It's cumbersome [the online book cannot be printed as a single file], (B) it's time consuming, (C) it's not as easy as having a book readily on hand.

It is human nature to want things provided as easily as possible, and while I disdain spoonfeeding people, there are certain instances when it's best to make things easier. One of these is providing rule books--not a collection of printouts from the Web, but traditional rule books.

Please restrict your unhelpful comments to another thread. This one is for a source from which to obtain the OBR book. I don't need a lecture from someone unable to understand what I am asking.

[johnnyg08]

chill brother...chill...i, like you, get an opinion on here. read the other threads...everybody gets an opinion...even on rules that are black and white...and quite honestly, obviously, neither of us care about each other's thoughts on this topic...if you can't take another opinion...what correlation is there between handing out rule books versus online access...you're still not guaranteed to get your people to read the rules...that's all I'm saying...and yes, I do have assigning experience since you implied otherwise. thanks

[Don Mueller]

Originally Posted by UMP25

It's obvious you don't understand the first thing about assigning for a bunch of individuals who simply will not do what you propose. (A) It's cumbersome [the online book cannot be printed as a single file], (B) it's time consuming, (C) it's not as easy as having a book readily on hand.

It is human nature to want things provided as easily as possible, and while I disdain spoonfeeding people, there are certain instances when it's best to make things easier. One of these is providing rule books--not a collection of printouts from the Web, but traditional rule books.

Please restrict your unhelpful comments to another thread. This one is for a source from which to obtain the OBR book. I don't need a lecture from someone unable to understand what I am asking.

Johnny doesn't get it!
I on the other hand know exactly what you're looking for:
One leather bound OBR rules book for each umpire in your association individually boxed, labeled and shipped to their home, because if you know anything about human nature you know we don't want to go to meetings.
Each book of course will come pretabbed and labeled with your top 10 points of emphasis for the year because as we all know(except Johnny) most good umpires, like the ones in your association, most certainly need spoonfeeding.
Above all, we certainly don't want to get ripped off by the man. We can't have the publisher making a nickel off us, "WE'RE UMPIRES for HEAVENS SAKE" so you expect a fair price of $2.00 per book delivered.
So I'm with you on this one Ump
Get a life Johnny and stop trying to help when you have no idea what people are really looking for!!!

[PeteBooth]

If one is serious about thier craft even though we are not PRO umpires simply bying the OBR rule book is a waste of time. Also, if an umpire gets paid some of those earnings are for Equipment and rule books.

The OBR rule book is terribly written, not indexed properly and contains over 200 errors. Also, more often then not one has to go through several rules to get the ENTIRE answer.

A simple one to get my point accross:

When a pitched ball hits the batter what award if any is awarded the batter and is the ball Live, immediately dead, or delayed dead.

We all know that the ball is immediately dead when a pitched ball strikes the batter and the batter is awarded first base. However, go find it in the OBR rule book.

You have to go to rule 6.08(b) which says B1 is awarded first base when touched by a pitched ball. The rule mentions nothing about the status of the ball. It does say that if B1 is not awarded first base the ball is immediately dead but that is not what I asked for.

To find out the status of the ball one needs to go to Rule 5.09(a)

There are many other type case plays in which the reader has to go to several rule codes (sometimes more than 2 rule codes) to get the 'complete picture" which is the reason an umpire should have in his/her possession a copy of the PBUC manual , J/R or Carl Childress's BRD. These materials EXPLAIN the rules, have case play analysis to aid the reader and are properly indexed. I left out Jim Evans book because it is not available at this time to the general public.

In Conclusion: If your umpires are not willing to spend at the very least $10.00 on a rule book what kind of umpires do you have?

Pete Booth