Situation

[LLPA13UmpDan]

I'm U3. Runner on second. Pitcher pitches the ball which the catcher misses but throws down to third to get the runner who is stealing. I call "out" as I seen a tag on R2 before before he got to the bag. 3B coach decides he is going to have a word about it, then one of the coaches on the offensive team decides he is going to to yell at me from the third base dugout; yelling "You missed that call, you know it, and everyone else here knows it." I stay at my position at 3B.

Would you do anything in that situation?

[greymule]

I'd respond thus:

"You're wrong, coach. Not everyone. The third baseman says it was the right call."

Actually (depending on factors like tone of voice and anything else said earlier in the game), if that's all they said, I'd probably let it go. But if they kept yapping . . .

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I'm U3. Runner on second. Pitcher pitches the ball which the catcher misses but throws down to third to get the runner who is stealing. I call "out" as I seen a tag on R2 before before he got to the bag. 3B coach decides he is going to have a word about it, then one of the coaches on the offensive team decides he is going to to yell at me from the third base dugout; yelling "You missed that call, you know it, and everyone else here knows it." I stay at my position at 3B.

Would you do anything in that situation?

Based on your previous posts/rants, probably the opposite of whatever you did in the situation.

[MadCityRef]

Real umpires don't use an indicator on the bases. One is enough.

[kylejt]

yelling "You missed that call, you know it, and everyone else here knows it."

Gone.

Don't let anyone yell the "y" word at you from across the diamond. If you ignore that you've lost control of the game, it's fair game on YOU for the rest of the game. Hike up them Fechheimers, and git 'er done.

That being said, how do basketball refs put up with the nonsense that they do?

[scarolinablue]

Originally Posted by kylejt

That being said, how do basketball refs put up with the nonsense that they do?

Simple...you "T" 'em up in basketball, which provides a penalty to the offending coach's team without going to the ejection step immediately. IMO, the dugout restriction is pretty lame, but there's not much else to do in baseball (i.e. you can't award a run for a hypothetical "T" in baseball) besides tossing the coach. Works for me, though.

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by kylejt

yelling "You missed that call, you know it, and everyone else here knows it."

Gone.

Don't let anyone yell the "y" word at you from across the diamond. If you ignore that you've lost control of the game, it's fair game on YOU for the rest of the game. Hike up them Fechheimers, and git 'er done.

That being said, how do basketball refs put up with the nonsense that they do?

YGBSM? So someone says to you, "You missed that call," and your response is to eject them because they said "you?"

That's rich.... you would definitely receive the red@$$ award around here.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by kylejt

yelling "You missed that call, you know it, and everyone else here knows it."

Gone.

Don't let anyone yell the "y" word at you from across the diamond. If you ignore that you've lost control of the game, it's fair game on YOU for the rest of the game. Hike up them Fechheimers, and git 'er done.

That being said, how do basketball refs put up with the nonsense that they do?

Wow - that seems a bit much. Put away the rabbit ears, hoss.

I would not have heard the comments - chatter coming from someone venting in the dugout has to be EXTREMELY long, or EXTREMELY offensive to even get my attention. (Now have this same coach run out on to the field yelling that, and I agree ... buh bye coach).

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Wow - that seems a bit much. Put away the rabbit ears, hoss.

I would not have heard the comments - chatter coming from someone venting in the dugout has to be EXTREMELY long, or EXTREMELY offensive to even get my attention. (Now have this same coach run out on to the field yelling that, and I agree ... buh bye coach).

Well, coming from the third base dugout, and I'm U3, D position.

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Well, coming from the third base dugout, and I'm U3, D position.

Once again, you are missing the point.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Well, coming from the third base dugout, and I'm U3, D position.

Are you misunderstanding on purpose?

What I'm saying is --- IGNORE it. I'm not saying that my ears are physically incapable of interpreting sound from that distance... I'm saying I don't HEAR it, unless it's 20x more out of hand than what you described. The advice you got above to eject for this will lead to a short career with little advancement.

So ... what did you do when actually faced with this? Did you learn from what you've been reading here over the past 3 months, and leave the rabbit ears in the trunk? Or did you make the situation worse and follow Kyle's advice?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Wow - that seems a bit much. Put away the rabbit ears, hoss.

I would not have heard the comments - chatter coming from someone venting in the dugout has to be EXTREMELY long, or EXTREMELY offensive to even get my attention. (Now have this same coach run out on to the field yelling that, and I agree ... buh bye coach).

That sentence, screamed as it was in the video, is an ejection. Not because of the word "you" but because of the obnoxious nature of the rest of it.

SP softball umpires only survive in these leagues one way. Have a hair trigger and eject anyone that even looks at you funny. Otherwise, you get what we have on the video.

I tried doing this back when I was a younger umpire and I just realized I'd rather stay home than do this crap. Of course I feel the same way about ALL softball now.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

That sentence, screamed as it was in the video, is an ejection. Not because of the word "you" but because of the obnoxious nature of the rest of it.

Uh, Rich ... what are you referring to? I see no video in this thread, and was answering LLDan's OP. You referring to something else?

[canadaump6]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Uh, Rich ... what are you referring to? I see no video in this thread, and was answering LLDan's OP. You referring to something else?

I think he was talking about the three videos posted under the thread "Absolutely Disgusting".

I once had a coach tell me that I was "ruining this game for the kids", when I was simply enforcing a rule that was necessary to call (automatic end of continuous play at a young level so that the kids don't overthrow to the point that every batter gets a homerun). I didn't toss him, but should have as that's a personal comment and I take it as an insult that he would say that.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by kylejt

Don't let anyone yell the "y" word at you from across the diamond. If you ignore that you've lost control of the game, it's fair game on YOU for the rest of the game. Hike up them Fechheimers, and git 'er done.

I agree if the word "you" is preceded by "fu*k". If it isn't, then lighten up.