new Wilson mask

[LomUmp]

Hey all,

How does this mask compare to the upper end Honig's masks? I am helping a friend decide on equipment, and have not personally seen or used this on. I love my Honig's, very strong and very light, and the topic has got me wondering. Thanks.

LomUmp

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by SAump

For one, I strongly object to your deplorable use of incorrectly adding adverbs to the subjects of prepositions off and near; and I also object to the use of "took" as an infinitive.

For two, grammar isn't my forte; but I know one adjective to corectly describe your sentence structure. I would go back to standard mechanics of noun, verb, adjective and preposition; before using more advanced mechanics such as adverb, gerund or infinitive.

For three, if the ball ended UP back near the pitcher's mound; it may have only been memorable to WMBLUE and nobody else. Whereas, it would be an entirely different matter had the flying mask ended UP back near the pitcher's mound. Then I could continue the discussion on this SUBJECT.

Maybe you could regale us with the necessary physics it would take for a mask struck with a 100 mph. pitch to fly back to an area near the mound.


Tim.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by BigUmp56

Maybe you could regale us with the necessary physics it would take for a mask struck with a 100 mph. pitch to fly back to an area near the mound.


Tim.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems that a rising fastball could possibly accomplish this trick.

[RPatrino]

Someone who apparently didn't have to wear the mask for protection.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by PWL

I thought there was a big long thread on this on Officials Unlimited.

You thought wrong. At least I don't recall a thread about it ever being there.


Tim.

[DG]

Originally Posted by LomUmp

How does this mask compare to the upper end Honig's masks? I am helping a friend decide on equipment, and have not personally seen or used this on. I love my Honig's, very strong and very light, and the topic has got me wondering.

I can't compare, because I would have to use other brands to do that. But I do have 3 of Honig's best (K91 with pads and harness) single bar lightweights and I am completely satisfied.

[gotblue?]

Now that the grammar lessons appear to be finished, and the posts are veering back toward relevancy, I would like to ask a question.

Posts in this thread refer to the Wilson Chrome Moliben mask as being "new", and one poster discusses his purchase of one this Spring as putting him in the category of being an "early adopter".

I have a Wilson Chrome Moliben mask that is going into its fourth Spring season, so I would have a hard time referring to this model as being a "new" one. Mine does not have wraparound pads (at least I don't think it does), so is this a design change that has people calling it "new", or has Wilson modified the mask in some way such that it is different from the one that I have been wearing for three years now? Just a matter of curiosity to me.

I like the view that the mask provides nearly as much as the view afforded by the AllStar2300 hockey style mask that was given to me as a Christmas present about 14 months ago. That, combined with its light weight, and no damage to date, make it my choice over the AllStar HSM and other masks.

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by gotblue?

Now that the grammar lessons appear to be finished, and the posts are veering back toward relevancy, I would like to ask a question.

Posts in this thread refer to the Wilson Chrome Moliben mask as being "new", and one poster discusses his purchase of one this Spring as putting him in the category of being an "early adopter".

I have a Wilson Chrome Moliben mask that is going into its fourth Spring season, so I would have a hard time referring to this model as being a "new" one. Mine does not have wraparound pads (at least I don't think it does), so is this a design change that has people calling it "new", or has Wilson modified the mask in some way such that it is different from the one that I have been wearing for three years now? Just a matter of curiosity to me.

I like the view that the mask provides nearly as much as the view afforded by the AllStar2300 hockey style mask that was given to me as a Christmas present about 14 months ago. That, combined with its light weight, and no damage to date, make it my choice over the AllStar HSM and other masks.

I believe it was introduced originally with the normal, traditional mask pads. Then after about a year or so, the new "wrap around" Wilson mask pads appeared on the mask. It is also called the "new view" or "Davis new view mask" because of the closer mask frame. Same mask, though.

[ctblu40]

... and I love it. Very light, great view. I bought my newest one last month (my other was dented just a little) complete with wrap around pads. After doing some pre-season cage work, I've decided to switch the wrap around pads out with the pads from my 3 yr old mask. The wrap arounds are simply not as comfortable as the old "square" ones, IMO.

BTW- I was going to look into getting a different brand, but I just really like the Wilson.... so I stayed with that.

[gotblue?]

I just picked up my second Wilson ChromeMoliben mask (got a reasonable deal on eBay, new, not used), as my teenage son began boosting my original one last fall to umpire LL games. My first has the original mask pads, the new one has the wraparounds.

My first impression is that the old pads are more comfortable, also. I will, however, give the wraparounds a fair trial.

One thing that I notice about the wraparounds is that, on the lower (chin) pad, the groove in the front of the pad that the cage is supposed to seat in (it is supposed to do that, isn't it?), does not seem to be contoured to match the corresponding wire of the mask. When the mask arrived, the cage was not seated in the groove, and the pad felt much bulkier. After considerable tweaking of the Velcro fasteners, I got it close to being seated, and the pad was more comfortable after that.

[NickG]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

SA, here is today's grammar lesson:


I took (infinitive) one shot (subject) off the Wilson (adverb) that was memorable. It (pronoun for same subject, "the shot") ended up (verb) back near the mound (adverb).

Notice that the mask stayed on his face, but the ball ended up near the mound.

I'm sure Garth will be by soon with his red pen to correct my grammatical errors!

Better:

I (subject) took (verb - simple past) one (adj.) shot (direct object) off the Wilson (prepositional phrase) that was memorable (relative clause). It (subject) ended up (verb phrase) back (indirect object) near the mound (prepositional phrase).

Don't ask how I know.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Yes, Eye'm gunna go git Huked On Foniks fur my bad gramer.