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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 09:46pm
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To steer this ship back into the channel

The topic originally was "arguing"- the length and breadth of the plate conference developed as what I like to call in my business a "tangent."

OBR 9.02 does say (my paraphrase) "Don't argue."

What's an argument? Here comes the proverbial cutter pitch. You ball it. F2 asks you, politely and so only the two of you can hear, "Hey, blue, where was that pitch?" I'm likely to tell him. If on the other hand, his coach (around here, we don't usually call them skip or manager) asks the question from the dugout, he now has my attention. He may or may not get run, depending on a lot of factors. We all have different tolerances for BS. Knowing where to find and draw that line is an art- one I'm still working on myself.

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Old Wed Jan 24, 2007, 10:06pm
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The topic originally was "arguing"- the length and breadth of the plate conference developed as what I like to call in my business a "tangent."

OBR 9.02 does say (my paraphrase) "Don't argue."

What's an argument? Here comes the proverbial cutter pitch. You ball it. F2 asks you, politely and so only the two of you can hear, "Hey, blue, where was that pitch?" I'm likely to tell him. If on the other hand, his coach (around here, we don't usually call them skip or manager) asks the question from the dugout, he now has my attention. He may or may not get run, depending on a lot of factors. We all have different tolerances for BS. Knowing where to find and draw that line is an art- one I'm still working on myself.

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Actually, counselor, the OT was a question asking when and why limited arguing became allowed. A couple of posts answered those questions directly. If you have something new to offer in regards to the OT, feel free.
If not, feel free to post whatever you'd like, as you did above.
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Old Sat Jan 27, 2007, 11:39am
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The Argument about the Argument

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Actually, counselor, the OT was a question asking when and why limited arguing became allowed. A couple of posts answered those questions directly. If you have something new to offer in regards to the OT, feel free.
If not, feel free to post whatever you'd like, as you did above.
And my point, Garth, was that the first step in deciding how much argument to take is defining an argument in the first place.

Most of us remember the days when MLB umpires acted by the philosophy "I am God here. Dare not question me." That is not what is taught in modern camps and schools, and in fact, I have been told by every MLB instructor I have had that you should respond to a reasonable question with a reasonable answer. Discerning the "argument" from the "question" is not always easy.

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