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Old Tue Jan 09, 2007, 06:39pm
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OK Mike,

Since my New Year's Resolution is to have NO ONE on my ignore list in 2007:

In order of importance to me:

1) Safe/Out
2) Fair/Foul
3) Ball/Strike
4) Balks
5) NFHS Re-entry
6) Batter Interference
7) FPSR
8) Catcher Interference
9) Fielder/Runner Contact (i.e. obstruction/interference)
10)Malicious Contact


Dare I say:

Since I have not had a "too dumb to bat in order" call in 15 years now I'll have at least two this year.

I should add somewhere the new NFHS "going to the mouth" since it has been called one way (the easy way) for decades I will need to pay more attention.

"One Rule ~ One Interpretation ~ One Mechanic"

Edited: as socalblue reminded me:"Surprise is the umpires enemy!"

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Old Tue Jan 09, 2007, 08:01pm
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Great reply, Tim!

p.s. I'd hate to see your business card, that's quite a title!
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Old Tue Jan 09, 2007, 09:13pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim C
Since my New Year's Resolution is to have NO ONE on my ignore list in 2007:

In order of importance to me:

1) Ball/Strike
2) Fair/Foul
3) Safe/Out
4) Balks
5) NFHS Re-entry
6) Batter Interference
7) FPSR
8) Catcher Interference
9) Fielder/Runner Contact (i.e. obstruction/interference)
10)Malicious Contact


Dare I say:

Since I have not had a "too dumb to bat in order" call in 15 years now I'll have at least two this year.

I should add somewhere the new NFHS "going to the mouth" since it has been called one way (the easy way) for decades I will need to pay more attention.

"One Rule ~ One Interpretation ~ One Mechanic"
Tim,

The only change I would make on my list would moving 1 to 3. Think back to JE & what he advises ....
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Old Tue Jan 09, 2007, 09:35pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim C
Since my New Year's Resolution is to have NO ONE on my ignore list in 2007:

In order of importance to me:

1) Ball/Strike
2) Fair/Foul
3) Safe/Out
4) Balks
5) NFHS Re-entry
6) Batter Interference
7) FPSR
8) Catcher Interference
9) Fielder/Runner Contact (i.e. obstruction/interference)
10)Malicious Contact


Dare I say:

Since I have not had a "too dumb to bat in order" call in 15 years now I'll have at least two this year.

I should add somewhere the new NFHS "going to the mouth" since it has been called one way (the easy way) for decades I will need to pay more attention.

"One Rule ~ One Interpretation ~ One Mechanic"
It may be regional, so for my area I would reorganize. It has been a very long time since I have seen MC in a high school game. I also don't see many re-entry questions.
1) Ball/Strike
2) Fair/Foul
3) Safe/Out
4) Players out of the dugout without helmets
5) FPSR
6) Balks
7) Obstruction
8) Batter interference
9) Catcher interference
10) Runner interference

I never bring a rule book onto the field.
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Old Tue Jan 09, 2007, 10:22pm
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D3K and IFR

Has to be up there near 4 and 5.

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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 06:56am
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Has to be up there near 4 and 5.
8 prep. pitches 1st ing. and 6 afterward to be completed within 1 minute
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 09:04am
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There was a big discussion among the bigwigs in our state (I'm not one of them...but I was subsequently asked for my opinion by one of the bigwigs) about the following:

NFHS Rules apply: R1 and 0, 1 or 2 outs.

What is the penalty for a pitcher, who while in contact with the rubber in the stretch position but prior to coming set (that is, for example, he's looking in to get the signs from the catcher) goes to his mouth with his non-glove hand?

What is the penalty: ball or balk?

I'll tell you what I concluded later. But from what I understand this became a very heated discussion between the different regional booking secretaries and the statewide league office. The statewide league office issued a directive as to what the penalty will be in our state...but a number of people don't agree with it.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 12:24pm
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at first read sound like a "ball" to me...might be nice to see it though.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 01:50pm
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There was a big discussion among the bigwigs in our state (I'm not one of them...but I was subsequently asked for my opinion by one of the bigwigs) about the following:

NFHS Rules apply: R1 and 0, 1 or 2 outs.

What is the penalty for a pitcher, who while in contact with the rubber in the stretch position but prior to coming set (that is, for example, he's looking in to get the signs from the catcher) goes to his mouth with his non-glove hand?

What is the penalty: ball or balk?

I'll tell you what I concluded later. But from what I understand this became a very heated discussion between the different regional booking secretaries and the statewide league office. The statewide league office issued a directive as to what the penalty will be in our state...but a number of people don't agree with it.

Balk since in FED, doing any movements that aren't related to throwing/pitching/coming set are balks (such as adjusting your cap or shaking the signs off with your glove).

Had he gone to his mouth, stepped on the rubber, and delivered a pitch, it would be an illegal pitch and a balk.


However, i think the new rule for 2007 states that it's a ball no matter what now, although i'm not sure about this by any means.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 08:14pm
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casebook 6.2.1 SITUATION A: F1 places his pitching hand on his mouth and distinctly wipes off his pitching hand prior to touching the ball (b) while touching the pitcher's plate. RULING: (b) illegal, a ball shall be awarded to the batter.

You did not say whether he wiped it off or not. If he does BALL, if not BALK. I can't find another reference or case play to call this balk. Carl will probably cover the change in BRD. It was item 363 in last year's issue.

This appears to be a rule change for 2007.
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Old Wed Jan 10, 2007, 11:13pm
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8 prep. pitches 1st ing. and 6 afterward to be completed within 1 minute
And all this time I've been giving 8 and 5.
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 01:30am
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8 prep. pitches 1st ing. and 6 afterward to be completed within 1 minute
Is this a new rule? An extra pitch now?
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 01:45am
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"Control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that show up for the players and the managers."

Did Bruce really say that? It makes no sense. The thought is incomplete. When you say something "is the difference between..." you need two items to show the difference.

So control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that (sic) show up for the players and managers, and what?
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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 03:58am
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So control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that (sic) show up for the players and managers, and what?

Hot dog and a Coke?


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Old Thu Jan 11, 2007, 11:15am
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"Control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that show up for the players and the managers."

Did Bruce really say that? It makes no sense. The thought is incomplete. When you say something "is the difference between..." you need two items to show the difference.

So control of the ballgame is the difference between umpires that (sic) show up for the players and managers, and what?
According to Baseball Almanac, Froemming did indeed say those exact words! You can check out the quotes by clicking here.
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