thoughts on these types of umpires.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by SAump

Okay, so let's assume this guy is a jerk, he is working the plate and you are not working the plate. This guy is happy because he is doing what he wanted. You're mad because you're not doing what you wanted. Now imagine if you switch places with the jerk. You're gonna get mad again because the unhappy jerk went home. Now look on the bright side; you make the same amount of money.

How would you like it if you were stuck with someone who demands he do a certain position EVERY game?

Although on the other hand, we all do get the same amout of $

[BigTex]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Hope that mnakes it clearer......Veteran umpire.....He didnt have it gear.....The other guy hadnt shown up to the feild until about 10 minutes before game time

Yep, that makes it A LOT clearer for me. You can continue to live in your world, and I will stay in mine.

[ozzy6900]

In my association, the crew decides what position we will work. None of us mind where we work but if we work multiple games together (like a series), we rotate like the MLB guys with each game.

[umpduck11]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

How would you like it if you were stuck with someone who demands he do a certain position EVERY game?

Although on the other hand, we all do get the same amout of $

In my neck of the woods, the senior man chooses which position he works.
When younger guys work with me, they know ahead of time that I will normally work the plate in a single game. In a double-header, I will take the
first, unless its a JV/V. In that case, I take the Varsity game, if I'm senior.
When we do three-man playoffs, a crew chief is assigned by our board , and he decides
which umpire works where. If we have two games, we rotate normally from that point.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I wouldnt necessarily say that the "veteran umpire" is the crew chief and he picks, who ever is HP is the crew chief is how its done. Its up to the umpires them selves (agreed upon before the game). Nobody at the feild puts us wear we work. Hope that mnakes it clearer. One of the guys usually asks who wants to do what. Kinda what happened when i stumbed into doing the plate in a district champ. 10-11 softball. Veteran umpire asked who wants to do what, He didnt have it gear, and the other guy got done from working HP that afternoon, so i was the only left to work. Vet. ump took first base. The other guy hadnt shown up to the feild until about 10 minutes before game time, so he was left with taking 3rd

I beg to differ, in our world the senior umpire is the crew chief no matter what position he is working. And if you show up without your gear, we will work with 3 umpires instead of 4. Finally, if you show up 10 minutes before one or our games (especially if we are working 3, 4 or 6 man crew) we are on the field already at the plate. If it was to be a 6 man crew, you will be facing a pi$$ed off line ump in the parking lot wanting your a$$!

[umpduck11]

Doesn't C.C. "always" have the plate ?

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

I beg to differ, in our world the senior umpire is the crew chief no matter what position he is working. And if you show up without your gear, we will work with 3 umpires instead of 4. Finally, if you show up 10 minutes before one or our games (especially if we are working 3, 4 or 6 man crew) we are on the field already at the plate. If it was to be a 6 man crew, you will be facing a pi$$ed off line ump in the parking lot wanting your a$$!

The one was an older guy, called up at the last minute and didnt have it gear. (he was there in about an hour before the game like us) None of us 3 were happy that the other guy showed up that late, he showed up just as we were ready to go in the field , but the same guy also shows up late to our umpire meetings. And get this..hes a college professor! Thats other reason why i worked HP, i hadnt done a 3 man this season, so it would be easier to do it that way anyhow, since i only have to help out with 3rd.

[3appleshigh]

As a younger umpire working in a crew, your job, is to show up, shut up and learn. You should simply say yes sir, no sir, how should I do this sir. Learn the ropes. In many instances the vet will not let you work the plate because you are simply not ready, or often the teams are not ready for you. In many leagues the teams need to see the faces a few, to a number of times before they will respect the ump. Keeping you out of harms way and letting you gain respect is a positive for you. Learn your role. You obviously don't know it, because you think you have opinions that matter and you have not worked enough to have opinions. Why Do I know because I have been on this board for 4 yrs and this year began to have opinions, and then only a few here and there. LEARN FIRST then PRACTICE. Become a sponge. and work whatever. I expect to work any position when I show up. I expect if I'm the senior guy to dictate what I will work, or what my partner will work in some instances, however on the flip side I know if I'm the lower seniority, I will Rub the baseballs, and ask "What do you want me to work today?"

Oh and P.S. Crew Chief no matter what is the most senior or Best umpire out there, you will know based on the organization which one is the case. Field position has nothing to do with it.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

How would you like it if you were stuck with someone who demands he do a certain position EVERY game?

Although on the other hand, we all do get the same amout of $

In fact, every year one problem or another would come up and disappear over time. My first year, I was stuck in t-ball and the 8-10 year division. The vets made it clear that the 11-12 year division was their show. I could work upper divisions when one of them had business that kept them from working the game that day. My second year was worse. I was stuck on the the softball diamond. I worked the plate both games because my young partner didn't have any gear or I took the first game and a vet would work the second (better pitching). Then I thought about our experiences and realized that every UMPIRE out there has had similar revelations. Now you can choose to get mad or choose to learn how to handle it more appropriately. Good luck.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Umpires in Tee Ball? You are kidding, right?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Thats other reason why i worked HP, i hadnt done a 3 man this season, so it would be easier to do it that way anyhow, since i only have to help out with 3rd.

I don't think that's true. But, I do agree that putting the rookie on the plate is the best thing to do in three-man.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I don't think that's true. But, I do agree that putting the rookie on the plate is the best thing to do in three-man.

u do? Well atleast someone out there thinks so too.

[SanDiegoSteve]

We always stick the rook in the bucket. Less things to screw up.

[Tim C]

LilLeague Dan has a learning disability.

He is not an umpire

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

whoever is HP is the crew chief is how its done. stumbed into doing the plate in a district champ. 10-11 softball. Veteran umpire asked who wants to do what, He didnt have it gear, and the other guy got done from working HP that afternoon, so i was the only left to work. Vet. ump took first base. The other guy hadnt shown up to the feild until about 10 minutes before game time, so he was left with taking 3rd

1) 10-11 year old Softball?

2) "Veteran" umpire doesnt have gear?