thoughts on these types of umpires.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

I noticed this a few times in my district, and it p*sses me off.

During all stars, the 4 umpires are assigned to a game, and then they are allowed to decide where they will work. Well, a few rotten apples out there act like babies and only will work a certain position, or else they will turn around and head home. Got anyone like that? Makes me mad.

[mcrowder]

I used to. Until I stopped scheduling him. Let guys like this walk.

[SanDiegoSteve]

When I was given the honor of working 4-man at the National Area Code Showcase games at Qualcomm Stadium in 2000, I was assigned to work games on back-to-back days. The first day, I wasn't allowed to work the plate because an umpire senior to me insisted on the plate. I then chose 1st base. The next day, with an entirely different crew, again a senior umpire chose the plate. Again, I chose 1st base. I wanted as much action as I could get. But I would have worked any position. I think seniority should have something to do with who works what.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

I think not Steve, no matter how many years youve worked it doesnt entitle you to demand you work a certain postition. take your turn like everyone else. Sure we may not be "professional umpires" but it makes no difference. Sure, its more fun to work HP and 1st, but some people need to learn to work the other pos. like everyone else. I dont care weather its your first year or your 30th, it doesnt entitle you to boss the other umpires around and insist working a pos. or decide to not umpire. I think my UIC should start assigning who works what.

[Dave Hensley]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I think not Steve, no matter how many years youve worked it doesnt entitle you to demand you work a certain postition. take your turn like everyone else. Sure we may not be "professional umpires" but it makes no difference. Sure, its more fun to work HP and 1st, but some people need to learn to work the other pos. like everyone else. I dont care weather its your first year or your 30th, it doesnt entitle you to boss the other umpires around and insist working a pos. or decide to not umpire. I think my UIC should start assigning who works what.

Spoken like a true rookie. Yes, if a crew is working a series, they should rotate positions. But those positions are assigned based on seniority, even in the majors. If a 4 man crew is working one game, then it makes complete sense that the positions get picked via seniority.

Pay your dues, kid. You can't take the 6 items or less express lane to being a veteran umpire.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Dave, you didnt understand me right.

What i mean was, umpires who game after game insist upon to work the same position over and over again, not allowing any body else learn anything. Sure, as a starting point for the first game seniority makes sense. Then change positions there after. But when vertern umpires start saying "im working this position or else im not umpiring" isnt right. As far as im conserned, stay home. I dont wanna work with you if u have that kind of attitude. Seniority does not give the UMPIRE himself the right to pick and choose all the time. Put your pants on one leg at a time, like everyone else does. If i were in charge, i'd rather have a smaller number of GOOD umpiring, then a larger number working the tournaments that wanna wine and moan. end of rant. All umpires should get experience doing all the positions.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I think my UIC should start assigning who works what.

I agree completely, and were I the UIC, I'd put you where you could do the least damage.

[mrm21711]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I think not Steve, no matter how many years youve worked it doesnt entitle you to demand you work a certain postition. take your turn like everyone else. Sure we may not be "professional umpires" but it makes no difference. Sure, its more fun to work HP and 1st, but some people need to learn to work the other pos. like everyone else. I dont care weather its your first year or your 30th, it doesnt entitle you to boss the other umpires around and insist working a pos. or decide to not umpire. I think my UIC should start assigning who works what.

You are either 1) Lance's son he never knew he had in Pennsylvania or 2) do not have not the first clue about umpiring.

[kylejt]

Using seniority is the easy way for the assignor to place umpires. That way he doesn't make judgement calls on who actually is the best umpire for each position. Letting the umpires choose, based on seniority, is the second easiest way to do things.

Please don't equate easy with fair, correct, best or any other proper term. It's just the easiet.

I've come across only one fellow that would only do plates. I think it was more of a mobility issue (he didn't like to move), than a pomposity one. Perhaps a touch of both.

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I think not Steve, no matter how many years youve worked it doesnt entitle you to demand you work a certain postition. take your turn like everyone else. Sure we may not be "professional umpires" but it makes no difference. Sure, its more fun to work HP and 1st, but some people need to learn to work the other pos. like everyone else. I dont care weather its your first year or your 30th, it doesnt entitle you to boss the other umpires around and insist working a pos. or decide to not umpire. I think my UIC should start assigning who works what.

What does the weather have to do with whether you're a rookie or a seasoned veteran?

Bob

[SAump]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

What does the weather have to do with whether you're a rookie or a seasoned veteran?

Bob

I am not sure if you do, but someone thinks the rookie is homophonic.

[BigUmp56]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

What does the weather have to do with whether you're a rookie or a seasoned veteran?

Bob

Well, a rookie is knot nearly as qualified to due the job as is a veteran. No matter witch weigh you look at it theirs no way to compare the too.


Tim.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I think my UIC should start assigning who works what.

I do exactly that.

[BigTex]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I noticed this a few times in my district, and it p*sses me off.

During all stars, the 4 umpires are assigned to a game, and then they are allowed to decide where they will work. Well, a few rotten apples out there act like babies and only will work a certain position, or else they will turn around and head home. Got anyone like that? Makes me mad.

It is the all-star tournament Dan is referring to......when it comes to post season, the veteran umpire is usually the crew chief and he assigns the rotation (or picks where he wants to work). You have been doing this for one year, relax a little, be honored you were selected for the post season, shut your mouth and listen. That is the best way to learn, earn respect from your peers and maybe sometime (it will take years) you will be the senior guy on the crew and you can pick where you want to work..

[SAump]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I noticed this a few times in my district, and it p*sses me off.

Okay, so let's assume this guy is a jerk, he is working the plate and you are not working the plate. This guy is happy because he is doing what he wanted. You're mad because you're not doing what you wanted. Now imagine if you switch places with the jerk. You're gonna get mad again because the unhappy jerk went home. Now look on the bright side; you make the same amount of money.