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Old Mon Oct 09, 2006, 08:52pm
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ever have one of these days..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNAlJtOWpdE

Interesting S3 call. blind ump.
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Old Mon Oct 09, 2006, 09:24pm
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I can honestly say that although there are times when my strike-three-looking mechanic is animated, I've never called a pitch in an animated game.


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Old Mon Oct 09, 2006, 09:38pm
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I was right behind home plate (and the backstop!) for a game once. So dead center I couldn't see the pitcher until the umpire got into his crouch. The first called strike three was like the animation and I said "that pitch just caught the corner...of the opposite batter's box! When that half of the inning ended the PU told me "If you want to stay here and broadcast this game, then do not question balls and strikes again." From then on I referred that same pitch as "catching the corner of the strike zone" without further explanation. I had heard of broadcasters being ejected before, so I wasn't about to be one of them.

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Old Mon Oct 09, 2006, 09:57pm
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Nice looking corner. He must have gone straight to Williamsport from there.

And he is using SA's "speed skating" stance too. Very sharp .
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 12:34am
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Did you see his gut?

Surprised he's not wearing a HSM to go along with that skating stance.
Check out the other videos where he rests his forearm on his thigh.
I bend at the knees, not the waist. It is much more comfortable.
That stance would only make any lower back pain worse.
I would probably have some neck damage from that stance too.
Trying to rest my forearm on my thigh also looks painful.
I extend my entire arm and support my weight with my hand.
My belly also reduces the chances of taking a direct cup shot.
I also keep my legs/knees closer together underneath me.
My knee problems have disappeared.
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 11:51am
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I was right behind home plate (and the backstop!) for a game once. So dead center I couldn't see the pitcher until the umpire got into his crouch. The first called strike three was like the animation and I said "that pitch just caught the corner...of the opposite batter's box! When that half of the inning ended the PU told me "If you want to stay here and broadcast this game, then do not question balls and strikes again." From then on I referred that same pitch as "catching the corner of the strike zone" without further explanation. I had heard of broadcasters being ejected before, so I wasn't about to be one of them.

Another umpire making up his own rules. An umpire does not have the authority to eject a spectator. He may request game management to do so, but that's it.

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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 12:09pm
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Another umpire making up his own rules. An umpire does not have the authority to eject a spectator. He may request game management to do so, but that's it.

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Says whom?

An umpire can sure as hell get rid of a fan. An umpire should use game management, but if a fan gets out of line and starts affecting the play, you can sure as hell get rid of a fan and not continue the game until that fan is ejected. It is your decision as an umpire to use game management to eject a fan.

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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 12:11pm
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I rest my case.
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 12:24pm
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Let's see...we have, here, a thread to evaluate the mechanics and strike zone of a computer generated video game umpire.

With apologies to Tee, this ties for the dumbest thread ever on the internet.
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 02:00pm
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What was the other one?
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 02:57pm
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Let's see...we have, here, a thread to evaluate the mechanics and strike zone of a computer generated video game umpire.

With apologies to Tee, this ties for the dumbest thread ever on the internet.
Garth, i wasnt evaluating the computer game umpire. what i meant was, ever have a day where your strike zone seems like his?
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 03:41pm
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Garth, i wasnt evaluating the computer game umpire. what i meant was, ever have a day where your strike zone seems like his?
Has Lance moved to Pennsylvania?
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 03:44pm
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Another umpire making up his own rules. An umpire does not have the authority to eject a spectator. He may request game management to do so, but that's it.

Bob
This was not a spectator, it was a media person broadcasting the game. The umpire certainly may eject any person from the media, or any club personnel (such as the organist for playing "Three Blind Mice" when the umpires walk out) which get out of line and cause trouble.

When I work a game, and there are not bleachers behind the backstop, I allow folks to stand there. But if they start in on my strike zone, I make them take a seat in the stands. Have never had any problems making them move.
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 04:00pm
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Another umpire making up his own rules. An umpire does not have the authority to eject a spectator. He may request game management to do so, but that's it.

Bob
Does not have the authority? Yeah we do.
Stupid thing to do? Yeah, probably.

But regarding scorekeepers / announcers, we SURELY have the authority to tell them to do things a certain way or stop entirely ... and even eject them from their position.

And we have. Had a high school guy who thought he was Bob Freaking Costas one day, announcing play-by-play over the loudspeaker. He was told to cool it, and he did. Until a play where the ball got away a few yards on a throw to first, and neither the 3BC or R2 (now on third) noticed it, "AND THE BALL GETS AWAY!!!!" alerted them both and R2 scampered home on a close play.

Buh bye Mr Announcer.

Had nearly the same thing in football 4-5 years back, except it was, "IT'S A REVERSE!!!!!" Tossed him too.
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Old Tue Oct 10, 2006, 04:08pm
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Does not have the authority? Yeah we do.
Stupid thing to do? Yeah, probably.
Just because you are the person that makes an ejection, does not mean you are the actual person that informs the fan that they are ejected.

Having said that I was working a basketball game about 5 years ago and my partners and I were confronted by a fan near the table (where we go after the teams leave the benches). I ejected him on the spot and the Principle saw me and got rid of the guy. So yes, we can eject fans or any spectator at any time. Most of the time we just do not do it ourselves. Does not mean we could not do it ourselves if the opportunity falls in our lap.

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