Do you guys?...jackets

[Tim C]

Greg Brewer is the head of the NFHS Baseball Rules Committee and the ultimate big wig in Alabama.

Regards,

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Greg Brewer is the head of the NFHS Baseball Rules Committee and the ultimate big wig in Alabama.

Regards,

Oh, well in that case, just as Rich said.

[UMP25]

Alabama, huh? That explains it.

Anyway, tucking in a jacket does make one's appearance look more professional. A jacket that hangs down one's pants untucked just looks sloppy. Heavier guys have it worse, for they look like round slobs out there. Of course, when they make a big "safe" call, it's funnier than schit when their jacket pulls up nice and high, revealing to all the world their undergarments.

[Tim C]

Ump 25 noted:

"Anyway, tucking in a jacket does make one's appearance look more professional. A jacket that hangs down one's pants untucked just looks sloppy. Heavier guys have it worse, for they look like round slobs out there. Of course, when they make a big "safe" call, it's funnier than schit when their jacket pulls up nice and high, revealing to all the world their undergarments."

This ties for the dumbest post ever made on the internet.

And it ridiculously judgemental . . . and obviously made by a MiLB wannabe (and pro school graduate).

Of course this is just my opinion.

Regards,

[LLPA13UmpDan]

this thread has took an obvious right turn

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Ump 25 noted:

"Anyway, tucking in a jacket does make one's appearance look more professional. A jacket that hangs down one's pants untucked just looks sloppy. Heavier guys have it worse, for they look like round slobs out there. Of course, when they make a big "safe" call, it's funnier than schit when their jacket pulls up nice and high, revealing to all the world their undergarments."

This ties for the dumbest post ever made on the internet.

And it ridiculously judgemental . . . and obviously made by a MiLB wannabe (and pro school graduate).

Of course this is just my opinion.

Regards,

And you know what they say about opinions...

It's simple fashion etiquette. The fact that you don't like it is irrelevant. As someone famous once exclaimed, "You can't handle the truth!"

BTW, I had my chance to be an MiLB umpire, Tim (and I'm much too old to be some wannabe); I declined. That's not why I attended umpire school. Not everyone who attends fits into this ridiculous mold that you so patronizingly hold. Get over yourself already.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Greg Brewer is the head of the NFHS Baseball Rules Committee and the ultimate big wig in Alabama.

Regards,

Maybe I was too soft on him then. Since I wear a helmet and I would NEVER, NEVER wear a hat under it, I guess I'll stay away from Alabama.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by UMP25

Alabama, huh? That explains it.

Anyway, tucking in a jacket does make one's appearance look more professional. A jacket that hangs down one's pants untucked just looks sloppy. Heavier guys have it worse, for they look like round slobs out there. Of course, when they make a big "safe" call, it's funnier than schit when their jacket pulls up nice and high, revealing to all the world their undergarments.

Well, I certainly tuck my jacket in when working the plate. I am curious about the other statement about seeing undergarments. I've never seen an umpire's undergarments exposed during a game because their jacket rode up on them.

My schit stays tucked in, no matter what happens out there, and the same goes for many umpires who are larger than I am. I've seen some pants rip out the seat, which is rather funny, but that happens to skinny guys too. My tailor reinforces my pants in the seat to insure against that happening.

[kylejt]

TMI

Thanks to all for not sharing what shows, and what doesn't when you umpire.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Well, I certainly tuck my jacket in when working the plate. I am curious about the other statement about seeing undergarments. I've never seen an umpire's undergarments exposed during a game because their jacket rode up on them.

My schit stays tucked in, no matter what happens out there, and the same goes for many umpires who are larger than I am. I've seen some pants rip out the seat, which is rather funny, but that happens to skinny guys too. My tailor reinforces my pants in the seat to insure against that happening.

Steve,

Not too long ago I did some evals of a couple guys wishing to work their way up to NCAA games. One was about 6'2" and 250 lbs. or so. He did the bases and wore the Honig's K17 black jacket, the one with the elastic bottom. He had a few whackers for safe calls out there, and when he did his emphatic calls, the jacket pulled up enough that his shirt/undergarments were noticeable. Each time he then, of course, had to pull down his jacket. It just looked sloppy. I asked him later why he wore a navy sweatshirt under his jacket, especially one that had a logo on it (didn't look very good). Needless to say, I marked him down for appearance.

I've explained to guys that when one tucks in such items, it offers a clean, crisp look. It bisects the body and uniform in a more professional manner ("professional" meaning in a general sense and not specifically referring to umpires or sports alone). There's a cleancut difference between one's clothing up top and one's clothing down below (the pants). The patent leather black belt adds to this appearance when it serves as the noticeable dividing line between the two. I'm sure this may sound stupid or even ridiculous to some, including a gentleman a few posts above, but there are those who know what I mean. FWIW, I never used to tuck in my jacket or any pullover item. I learned to do this outside of umpiring (no, not from Gloria Vanderbilt, either) then applied it to umpiring. I have a couple pullover windbreakers and similar items. I tuck those in when going out. Button-down items? Well, that's a different story.

[Tim C]

My aren't I glad that evaluators in my area worry about your umpiring rather than personal views of uniformity.

How sad . . . but WWTB taught us what to expect from a certain area of the USA.

And if tomorrow the MLB guys changed to wearing them "untucked" you would support that position from that day forward.

Sad, really sad!

Regards,

[UMP25]

A.) Appearance is but one of many factors that go into evaluations (still wearing those beanies behind the plate?). Perhaps you high school umpires don't comprehend this.

B.) Some MLB guys have gone to untucking their jackets; I have not. So, your typically juvenile retort is, as usual, incorrect.

Nice try, Tim. Play again sometime.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

this thread has took an obvious right turn

Yes. It went from crap to something somewhat marginally related to umpiring.



You can always start another video-game thread later. We know you will.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Tim C

My aren't I glad that evaluators in my area worry about your umpiring rather than personal views of uniformity.

How sad . . . but WWTB taught us what to expect from a certain area of the USA.

And if tomorrow the MLB guys changed to wearing them "untucked" you would support that position from that day forward.

Sad, really sad!

Regards,

The bottom line is all officials in all sports are expected to "look the part." Many of those standards good or bad come from the higher levels. A lot of what football officials do is based on what is acceptable at the NFL or Division 1 levels. There is a reason you do not see officials wear short sleeve shirts and then have a turtleneck hanging out of the sleeves of the shirt on a football crew. As a basketball official, we wear similar styles from what we see in the NBA or Division 1 level as well. You do not see the Byron collar anymore at all levels of basketball because it was made a standard at the higher levels. The thing with football and basketball, there are not many variations to the uniforms that we wear in those sports. In baseball there are all kinds of combinations and different styles that we wear on the baseball field. That is just a reality to the any level of officiating. Some areas are going to be much stricter than others.

Also I have never been told to wear a jacket that is designed to be tucked in to have it tucked in. I have only tucked in a jacket that is designed for that purpose.

Peace

[Tim C]

Ump25 what a pompous a$$ you are. And trust me I KNOW pompous . . . I look in the mirror several times a week.

Let's make a bet:

I bet I have worked more D-1 games than you.

Further, I bet I have worked higher in the D-1 playoffs that you.

The statement "you high school umpires" is just plain silly, mate.

We get it . . . but the problem with you, is you can't sell it!

Trying to explain to us a fashion statement ("the belt defines top from bottom . . ." ) is like trying to talk sense to SAUmp on a rising fast ball.

It just doesn't fly.

If anyone needs to "get over themselves" you have shown us pretty clearly who that is . . .

Regards,