Fall Ball Sportsmanship

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

Considering that you don't know me and have never seen me work a game, these are pretty harsh words.
I assume that you work both NCAA and HS baseball (just from your posts). If this is the case, are you telling me that your zone for a Big East game is the same as it is for a Shoreline Conference game? Or worse yet East Haven JV vs Guilford JV? Please... an umpire must be able to call an accepted/ expected zone! If he can't (or won't) he better stick to 1 level or the other.

There is a time and a place to adjust your strike zone... if you don't know that by now, you'll never stop working those 25-2, 3.5 hour games... enjoy!

I don't have to see one of your games, because you have told me enough.You are a cheater!

Further more, you are going off the subject trying to defend yourself. We are talking about changing the zone during the friggen game! Of course the strike zone is different from NCAA to JV to LL but you never, ever change your zone knowingly during a game! You might as just well say, "okay, you guys suck so they win".

And one more thing, it is quite obvious that you may be in my association and if you are, please identify yourself at our first meeting of the new season. This way I can make sure that Arnie or Tony never assign us together!

I'm done with this!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

I don't have to see one of your games, because you have told me enough.You are a cheater!

Further more, you are going off the subject trying to defend yourself. We are talking about changing the zone during the friggen game! Of course the strike zone is different from NCAA to JV to LL but you never, ever change your zone knowingly during a game! You might as just well say, "okay, you guys suck so they win".

And one more thing, it is quite obvious that you may be in my association and if you are, please identify yourself at our first meeting of the new season. This way I can make sure that Arnie or Tony never assign us together!

I'm done with this!

What Dave Hensley said in the post above mine. Don't tell anyone, but I may have even called someone out in a 30-0 youth game at first base on a really close play where the BR may not have actually been out. Guess what? Life goes on and most teams up 30-0 understand and to heck with those that don't.

Oh, I can hear the violins playing. Wahhhh wahhhh wahhh.

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

I don't have to see one of your games, because you have told me enough.You are a cheater!

Further more, you are going off the subject trying to defend yourself. We are talking about changing the zone during the friggen game! Of course the strike zone is different from NCAA to JV to LL but you never, ever change your zone knowingly during a game! You might as just well say, "okay, you guys suck so they win".

And one more thing, it is quite obvious that you may be in my association and if you are, please identify yourself at our first meeting of the new season. This way I can make sure that Arnie or Tony never assign us together!

I'm done with this!

I'm not on your board... so don't worry about that.

I open the zone up for both teams, so I don't understand how this is cheating. And yes, I sometimes change the zone during the game, I would bet that most good amature umpires do.

And believe me, if I had the power to say "You guys suck and they win," and end a lopsided game I would do so in a heartbeat! I'll bet the participants wouldn't be all that upset either!

You're getting pretty worked up over a game management style that you don't agree with... keep calm, the sun will still rise tomorrow!


Sheesh!

[LMan]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

the sun will still rise tomorrow!

Not for cheaters. The sky is always grey for cheaters.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

I sometimes change the zone during the game, I would bet that most good amature umpires do.

You would be betting wrong.

Some bad ones do. Good ones don't.

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

You would be betting wrong.

Some bad ones do. Good ones don't.

So we should agree to disagree...

[AAUA96]

From the NCAA Umpire Evaluation Standards:

http://www1.ncaa.org/membership/cham...eval_standards

"Consistency of Strike Zone Throughout the Game

Maintains the same zone throughout the game and is the same for both teams from inning 1 to inning 9. Has a grasp of how the zone can be adjusted in lopsided game. Note: Umpires "miss" pitches occasionally, just because an umpire calls a pitch that bounces a strike once does not mean that he should continue to call that pitch a strike in the name of consistency." (Emphasis added)

I guess you can decide for yourself what "adjusted" means.

Walter