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Hijacked the below statement from Mike. It was posted as
a reply to another individual, but works great here. I was prepared for the mill of the run HS fall game, but I got a Gem. "we do it anyway because we know that for all the lousy games, there is going to be some great ones just around the corner." Finally got that one good game out the Monday night HS fall ball. Two very good pitchers, both play on 18U gold teams. Both throw no- hitters. However, one of them has a freshman catcher that has not really learned to handle this type of pitcher and she loses 2-0 on D3K's. Catcher must have missed 10 pitches. Coach from other team was even hollaring when I would call it a strike and catcher could not catch it. So I lost him too. Coach keeps saying all sorts of things about strikes, balls. Finally I ask him if we are discussing the strike zone. He saids, "Well, what do you think I am talking about?" "Coach, you got anything in the dugout that you need?" "No, why?" "Good, then you can exit straight out the gate behind you." I would probably still be calling the game if losing pitcher had had her regular catcher.
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Written by whiskers_ump:
"Coach, you got anything in the dugout that you need?" "No, why?" "Good, then you can exit straight out the gate behind you." If you don't mind I'll use these words next time I have to toss a coach. I like it! (not the tossing, just the way wrote the words...) Alex
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 01:32am
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that my friend was a classic...
I once asked a coach if he had a good parking spot "What do you care what kinda spot I got" "Well I hope that you do cause that's the only way you are going to get to see anymore of this one... C-YA"
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 11:10am
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I find that kind of comment provocational and unprofessional compared to "you are ejected" or "you are disqualified".
Not the case in this topic, but often it sounds like umpires are too touchy about someone questioning their calls.
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 05:22pm
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You must have seen my comment added by a photo at Niema's site taken at Moskou. That coach has always something to talk about, mostly about strike-zone and calls on the bases... Butterfahrt is in two weeks, I believe. Have fun! Alex
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 08:14pm
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Part of the reasons what some consider "smart-***" comments is to set the individual a bit off balance which can divert their attention (What do you care what kinda spot I got) and basically defuse the situation. It isn't meant to embarrass the coach as more often than not, s/he is the only one who can hear your comment. BTW, arguing balls and strikes is against the rules and has nothing to do with "touchy" umpires.
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 08:26pm
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I couldn't agree with you more Mike, I know that in my situation the coach was basically looking for a big ejection the last thing that I was gonna do was give it to him by asking him an I admit a very smart@$$ question it disarmed the coach put me back in control of the situation and then I very quietly sent him packing... I controlled the situation he didn't the theatrics that would have incited his fans for the rest of the game and got rid of him, a no loss situation for me...
And by the way I've been at this for 5yrs worked a college schedule after my second season and have a grand total of 6 ejections
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 08:34pm
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That is almost as many as I have in 45 years.  The main reason I ejected the coach was because here we have two pitchers throwing no-no's. Both are getting the outside, inside and nothing up. He was the coach of the winning team. Guess because the poor catcher on the other team could not hang onto the ball, he just figured it was out of the zone. But I got tired of it, so corrected it.
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 08:38pm
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Yeah but Glen we aren't all as patient and understanding as you are oh wise one...
 btw just got an email from Mike G I guess we won't be getting an eval from Mr Lepisto after all... how are the ribs
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 08:38pm
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Umpires Associations each time utilized.
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glen _______________________________ "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." --Mark Twain.
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 08:43pm
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The words to eval us just did not exist in Mr L's vocabulary. Ribs great. Did 15 games for Mike G this weekend. Thanks
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glen _______________________________ "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." --Mark Twain.
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 08:46pm
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John, You and Mike must be sitting right on top of the computer,
just as I am. We better stop using this as an ICQ before Mike puts a stop to it.
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glen _______________________________ "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." --Mark Twain.
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Tue Nov 16, 2004, 09:21pm
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