MLB foul ball overturned.....

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Not from the replays I've seen.

Angel F-up again.

Garth, it's OBVIOUS that the ball hit the bag. From any angle, but especially from the home plate angle.

[SanDiegoSteve]

I still must be too old school for my own good:

1) stick with the foul call. No un-ringing bells, ding-dong. I'm with Rut on this one.

2) No, now is not the time, nor will there ever be the right time for replay in baseball.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Garth, it's OBVIOUS that the ball hit the bag. From any angle, but especially from the home plate angle.

I wouldn't use the word obvious. In the replay shown on ESPN 2 this morning, there was daylight between the ball and the bag. Wait, let me look at it again.

(time passes}

Yep, daylight.

[mbyron]

My complaint about this call isn't so much about whether the ball hit the bag. That's judgment, and if U3 missed it, no biggie.

As far as I know, no manual or book gives the slightest whiff of a hint that PU can do what Hernandez did. Someone mentioned precedent, and this sets a bad one, IMHO.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by GarthB

I wouldn't use the word obvious. In the replay shown on ESPN 2 this morning, there was daylight between the ball and the bag. Wait, let me look at it again.

(time passes}

Yep, daylight.

You must be looking at a different play ... the ball ricochets off the bag. It's blatantly obvious.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

You must be looking at a different play ... the ball ricochets off the bag. It's blatantly obvious.

The ball bounces to the left in the very close proximity of the bag. The mind completes the picture.

There is daylight betwixt the two.

No sense in continuing. I can see the video that I am looking over and over. And you apparently can see something else. No problem. Angel thought he saw something, too.

[Peruvian]

Originally Posted by GarthB

The ball bounces to the left in the very close proximity of the bag. The mind completes the picture.

There is daylight betwixt the two.

I'm inclined to agree here. Given the bounce in front of the plate and the fact that it went so high in the air, this ball had TONS of topspin on it, thus giving the illusion of it hitting the bag when it came down.

We've all seen a right-handed batter hit a pitch in the left-handed batter's box that takes a high bouce in foul territory, then upon landing, juts out into fair territory.

This is what happened here, IMO.