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Pitch count strategy in Little League
According to this USA Today article, pitch counts are being considered due to injury from overuse of the "golden arms".
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I say it is about time LL got involved. There are far too many idiot coaches and parents who have no clue what they are doing to their kid’s arms. I watch a lot of little league play during the summer months and it just kills me to see these kids being trotted out there day after day, throwing 90-100 pitches with 40 breaking balls. Hell I don’t even let some of my high school pitchers throw that much.
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High school and other leagues have been talking about this for a long time, but I just don't see it happening. There are simply too many parents (coaches) who don't care when it comes down to it. Our HS state guys have been talking about something like that for years since one guy pitched in all three of the games in 5A state playoffs a couple of years ago. Thanks David |
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Some youth league and high school pitchers are allowed to throw more pitches than the professionals. I'm affiliated with a Class A Minor League team team, and pitchers are normally held to 80 pitches or less. Even MLB pitchers rarely throw 100 in a game. And these are adults.
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Rules for the pitch count test the past two years permit a F1 to finish the batter when they reach the maximum allowed pitches. Pitch counts year 1 were Major Div only. This year the test was for all divisions. A little tuning and it should be ready in 2007 for all leagues. From what LL has published internally, pitch count test leagues have seen most managers pull F1 between innings when they have <10 pitches left (IMO is a good thing). |
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http://www.littleleague.org/media/Pi...ulation_06.pdf IMO I would like to see one more group: U8 with 65 pitches per day. |
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I guess I just don't get. Little League already has inning limits in place, and I don't see any persuasive reason why gaining the precision of pitch limits instead of inning limits will save Timmy's arm from being abused.
I predict the new pitch count rule will cause some pretty serious regular season problems in leagues that are run mostly by, if you'll excuse the expression, people who don't cypher all that good. I tink they should offer it as an optional rule, not mandate it from on high after the fairly limited testing they've done. |
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1. Because too many dumb $%%##& managers let kids go 120+ pitches, including breaking balls. 2. Innings mean next to nothing at this age - it's number and type of pitches that ruin the arm. 3. LL counted pitches at the regiona and WS level a couple years ago and were stressed over what they saw. As I recall at least half the kids who went 6 innings threw 100+ pitches. Wasn't it the FL team who let the kid go close to 140? Keeping track is easy. Our local league uses the $7.95 click counters & record the total each inning. Zero issues in two years. Posisitve note is zero kids out with injured arms from over use and 25% more kids being developed as pitchers. |
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Where is anything other than anecdotal, urban legend type stuff, showing significant, lasting arm injury in 12 year olds who have pitched WITHIN existing Little League inning limitations? Where's the documented, proven problem the pitch-count rule is going to solve? |
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Its a great thing.
The rule, if you look at it, will allow more kids to be pitching, which may cause for less good pitchers, but more kids get the chance, which is great. Also, individual kids will be pitching less. Look for LL to outlaw the curveball in the coming years as well at the Majors level and below. |
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