Retired batter Interference

[mcrowder]

Thought I had this one straight from reading here ... but maybe not.

R1 stealing 2nd... Batter swings hard and misses at strike three, and falls over the plate, colliding with catcher, who then throws poorly to 2nd base due to the contact.

Ruling?

[UmpJM]

mcrowder,

R1 is out due to the interference of his "just retired" teammate under OBR. Any other runners return.

Under FED, the umpire must judge that the catcher "would have" retired the R1 absent the interference in order to rule him out. If the umpire judges the catcher had no chance to retire the stealing runner, the runner is NOT out, but must return to his TOP base.

(Ref.: BRD #266)

JM

[DG]

Originally Posted by CoachJM

Under FED, the umpire must judge that the catcher "would have" retired the R1 absent the interference in order to rule him out. If the umpire judges the catcher had no chance to retire the stealing runner, the runner is NOT out, but must return to his TOP base.

That's an easy decision.

[gordon30307]

[QUOTE=CoachJM]mcrowder,

R1 is out due to the interference of his "just retired" teammate under OBR. Any other runners return.

Under FED, the umpire must judge that the catcher "would have" retired the R1 absent the interference in order to rule him out. If the umpire judges the catcher had no chance to retire the stealing runner, the runner is NOT out, but must return to his TOP base.

(Ref.: BRD #266)

Under Fed if it's strike three and the batter interferes the runners attempting to steal (this will always be my judgement) will be out. If it's not strike three I may or may not call the runner out.

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

. If it's not strike three I may or may not call the runner out.

If its not strike three, what rule are you using to call the runner out? In all codes, if there is batters interference, the batter is called out for his actions, the runneres return to TOP bases.

[gordon30307]

Originally Posted by ctblu40

If its not strike three, what rule are you using to call the runner out? In all codes, if there is batters interference, the batter is called out for his actions, the runneres return to TOP bases.

As per high schools if you feel the batter interfering with the catcher prevented the runner from being thrown out the runner can be called out as well. Judgement call by PU.

[UmpJM]

gordon30307,

As per high school rules, if the batter is not already out and the runner is not attempting to advance to home, there is no basis in the rules for calling the runner out.

Calling the runner out in such a case would NOT be a "judgment call", it would be a gross (and protestable) misapplication of the rules.

BTW, I have no issue with you (and, I believe DG) suggesting that, in your judgment, the catcher always would have had a chance to retire the stealing runner absent the batter's interference.

JM

[ctblu40]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

As per high schools if you feel the batter interfering with the catcher prevented the runner from being thrown out the runner can be called out as well. Judgement call by PU.

Hmmm.... I've never heard of this. Can you back this up with a specific rule from the NFHS book?

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by gordon30307

As per high schools if you feel the batter interfering with the catcher prevented the runner from being thrown out the runner can be called out as well. Judgement call by PU.

Huh? This is wrong on multiple levels.

First, I don't feel batters whether they are interfering with the catcher or not.

Secondly, this is not, in any regard, a correct statement concerning the FED rule.