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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 08:02am
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Tie?

There is no such thing as a tie in baseball. The Batter-runner is either out or safe! Plus, it's a judgement call and we all know that judgement calls can't be argued! Right!
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 08:17am
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Ok,

I have refrained so far -- but I cannot help myself . . .

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It doesn't matter if the two actions happen exactly at the same time.

"Why" you may ask?, simple:

The NBA and NTSB both did independent studies that show the exact same outcome:

The human mind cannot tell what happens as soon as two actions occurr within .04 of a second of each other.

Both studies showed that no matter what happens the human brain cannot define the order of happenings when they happen so close together.

I would contend that an umpire simply will make the call based on what "appeared" to have happened.

While there are no "ties" (when dealing with safe/out), we wouldn't know it if it happened.

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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 08:19am
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There's nothing more you're going to hear from MLB about this one...in fact I'd be surprised if they'd even take the time to answer a question like that. There are no ties...only for the Saab driving mom in the stands.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 09:02am
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There's nothing more you're going to hear from MLB about this one...in fact I'd be surprised if they'd even take the time to answer a question like that.
Actually, they did. From MLB.com's Ask The Umpire website:

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I am an umpire for Little League. The coach told me that ties go to the runner. I said the batter has to beat the throw to first because there are no such thing as ties. Who is right?
-- L.M.F.
[Tim] McClelland: That is exactly right. There are no ties and there is no rule that says the tie goes to the runner. But the rule book does say that the runner must beat the ball to first base, and so if he doesn't beat the ball, then he is out. So you have to make the decision. That's why umpires are paid the money they are, to make the decision on if he did or if he didn't. The only thing you can do is go by whether or not he beat the ball. If he did, then he is safe.
So there it is, from MLB. No ties.
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Old Thu Aug 03, 2006, 11:05am
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