Batter out of box

[Rich]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

No i dont let them. I just try to keep the game fair, and play by the rules. But I dont know how you guys stand behind the plate, but i can see the pitch and the batters feet too.

Not if you're tracking the pitch into the glove using only your eyes. Sorry, but you're either (1) wrong, or (2) not tracking the pitch correctly.

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Not if you're tracking the pitch into the glove using only your eyes. Sorry, but you're either (1) wrong, or (2) not tracking the pitch correctly.

When the pitch is coming in, i can see the batters feet out the corner of my eye; from the slot stance

[RonRef]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

When the pitch is coming in, i can see the batters feet out the corner of my eye; from the slot stance

Is that with a helmet on or just a regular mask?

[LLPA13UmpDan]

I use both...from the hockey mask i cant see it as well as with the regular mask.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

I use both...from the hockey mask i cant see it as well as with the regular mask.

But, do you wear them both at the same time? Now that I'd love to see!!!

[3appleshigh]

LOL a can of gasoline is so easy to light!

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

But, do you wear them both at the same time? Now that I'd love to see!!!

What do you think!?!?! lol No...its not possible to wear both...unless one is wayyyy bigger then the other.

[GarthB]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

When the pitch is coming in, i can see the batters feet out the corner of my eye; from the slot stance

Let's see, "When the pitch is coming in..." translates to "when it really doesn't matter."

Tell me, when you track the pitch all the way to the bat making contact on the outside corner by moving only your eyes, what do you see?

(By the way, the slot is a location...heel to toe is a stance.)

[LLPA13UmpDan]

Originally Posted by GarthB

Let's see, "When the pitch is coming in..." translates to "when it really doesn't matter."

Tell me, when you track the pitch all the way to the bat making contact on the outside corner by moving only your eyes, what do you see?

(By the way, the slot is a location...heel to toe is a stance.)

Outside corner i usually dont see the batters feet. inside part of plate...I do see it. I follow the pitch from the time the pitcher has it, from the time it the catcher get it.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

Outside corner i usually dont see the batters feet. inside part of plate...I do see it. I follow the pitch from the time the pitcher has it, from the time it the catcher get it.

If the catcher got it, we have no issue, right?

Seriously, if you're watching the pitch until it is hit, and then looking down to see feet - you've likely lost significant sight of where the ball is going. The natural thing is to watch where the ball is going, and except for this one minor thing that happens exceedingly rarely (foot being out of the box at the moment of contact), you're going to find you're much better off keeping an eye on where the ball is going than losing it to check foot placement and then trying to pick it up again.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by LLPA13UmpDan

When the pitch is coming in, i can see the batters feet out the corner of my eye; from the slot stance

If the slot is a stance, what other stances could there be?

What matters, I'll say yet again, since it's not getting through to several here ... is not where the foot is when the pitch comes in, nor just after contact. What matters is where the foot is WHEN the ball is contacted - that exact moment.

Positive (non-blurry) peripheral vision is about 25-30 degrees from where one is looking - everything else is not clear, if you think it is, you're kidding yourself.

The angle on MOST pitches between the umpire and the ball vs the umpire and the feet is WAY more than 25-30 degrees (it's closer to 90 on anything above the waist, closer to 60 on even low pitches). Those using GD have slightly smaller angles than these, but still no where near 25-30 degrees unless the ball is a VERY low (out of the zone) pitch.

You CANNOT see these two events simultaneously - if you are looking at the feet, you aren't doing your job. I can't be any clearer than that.