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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 09:29am
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PDX - I understand your point, but will you then snap at the catcher for not getting that high one that hits you in the mask because YOU told him to get down?
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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 10:13am
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PDX - I understand your point, but will you then snap at the catcher for not getting that high one that hits you in the mask because YOU told him to get down?
We are not talking about the pitch that is out of the zone. We are talking about the catcher standing up on pitches that are IN the zone!

And I don't tell them to "get down", I tell them to "stay down" if they want me to see a strike.

And in the end, I could care less how often the block me out. I WILL call it a ball, and if they aren't complaining, I don't need to say a thing. It is when they DO complain that you can handle it the way I described above.
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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 11:32am
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PDX - I understand your point, but will you then snap at the catcher for not getting that high one that hits you in the mask because YOU told him to get down?
I expect the catcher to have the skill to get up and snag the high ones, get down on his knees and block the balls in the dirt, and come up with everything inside. What I don't expect is for him to stand Ray Fosse style to receive the pitch and block me out.
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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 11:37am
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If the catcher stands up to catch the ball, when there is a runner attempting to steal, call it a strike if it is close to the zone, or a hittable pitch. Everyone is watching the runner, everyone expects the catcher to stand up, and it lets you get an extra strike.
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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 01:03pm
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If the catcher stands up to catch the ball, when there is a runner attempting to steal, call it a strike if it is close to the zone, or a hittable pitch. Everyone is watching the runner, everyone expects the catcher to stand up, and it lets you get an extra strike.
Maybe I'm just reading this post wrong (I hope), as nothing was said (here) about the pitch not being seen, but it seems to me that "everyone watching the runner....gets you an extra strike", sounds like an ump "has a hot date, wants to get out of there" scenario. After 10 yrs of varsity umping, I'm there until the game is over, not looking for trick ways to shorten the game, by what, 45 seconds?...
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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 02:35pm
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Maybe I'm just reading this post wrong (I hope), as nothing was said (here) about the pitch not being seen, but it seems to me that "everyone watching the runner....gets you an extra strike", sounds like an ump "has a hot date, wants to get out of there" scenario. After 10 yrs of varsity umping, I'm there until the game is over, not looking for trick ways to shorten the game, by what, 45 seconds?...
I use Nick's technique all the time. I refer to it as 'stealing a strike'

Close and hittable are the keys elements to this. Many times the batter has the take sign on a steal, so the coach and batter are willing to concede a strike in this situation and I'm happy to oblige.

It's kind of like when a high pitch comes in right down the middle and the batter ducks. "STRIKE"
Do you use this sitch as an opportunity for a strike or do you try to visualize the batters stance prior to ducking and make a judgement on the high pitch?
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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 06:25pm
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It's kind of like when a high pitch comes in right down the middle and the batter ducks. "STRIKE"
Do you use this sitch as an opportunity for a strike or do you try to visualize the batters stance prior to ducking and make a judgement on the high pitch?
I love a batter that ducks !

Opens up the high side of the zone.
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Old Thu Jun 22, 2006, 09:00pm
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Sounds to me like this is a non-issue for all you GD'ers out there (i still don't know how you guys see the plate from so far back- then you work high to compensate for that and i don't know how you see low pitches. i guess i gotta try it for myself).

Ok- so next time this happens, i'll continue to call it a ball if i'm not sure and tell the catcher not to pop up next time.
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