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Old Wed Jul 25, 2001, 11:45am
Gee Gee is offline
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Sorry, I cannot defend the call. The key words in your post were "This play happened in a bang gang manner."

I've got "NO CATCH". As you know from OBR #2 a catch is nullified when the catcher simultaneously or immediately (BANG BANG) comes in contact with a runner....Causing him to to drop the ball.

I interpret your rulings to mean the tag was proper as the catcher had full control of the ball when he stepped on the plate. As I have said, I would rule, no catch.

As to the OBR definition of TAG as well as the interpretation of tag in JEA, there is no post tag action taken into consideration, i.e. intentional and voluntary release.

However J/R interprets the TAG differently than JEA. J/R includes post tag action and requires intentional and voluntary release of the ball before the tag is official.

I will go one step further on that. Let's say there was no throw, thus catch wouldn't enter into the equation.

The batter tops a ball infront of the plate and the catcher went out and picked it up and ran back to the plate and the same thing happened. In that case I would call NO TAG as I need post tag action before I call that runner out.

Another sitch to further my point.

No force at the plate but an R3.

Batter chops one in front of the plate, catcher runs out and picks up the ball and runs back and sets up for R3 coming in WITH TOTAL CONTROL of the ball.

R3 slides in, you have the catcher, with full posession, and you see the catcher, as clear as daylight, tag the runner.

He then drops the ball simultaneously or immediatly upon contact. Are you going to call that runner
out while looking at the ball on the ground.

I'm not. If you do you had better have a cell phone handy to call 911. Think about it. G.
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